I really have to laugh when I hear you guys talking about the "effort"
required to keep your app up to date in more than one store. Really! How
much work is it? Do you seriously think it is worth spending weeks
making an app, and a minimum of several hours per update... and it's too
much work to spend an hour or so per update updating a couple more App
Stores????? If so... where are your priorities?
If you are a single developer and you are spending less than 30% of the
time you spend programming on marketing... then you need to rethink how
you are spending your time. Who cares if you create a good app if you
don't spend the time marketing it so that people find it and use it????
I know developers aren't natural marketers... and that is why companies
that have both marketers and developers create most of the top selling
apps. It's not just because it's a better app... it's also because they
do better marketing.
Anyway... {rant off}...
Sincerely,
Brad Gies
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On 07/01/2011 8:35 AM, aman wrote:
I am also a hobbyist developer and making many times than their annual
fee. However, I still think it's hard to see the merit of the 3
things listed as the advantage doing it through Amazon. The effort
does not seem to be worth paying $99 and shared sales as well as time
spent on keeping software update in sync and tech support. If their
intention is for the quality, they can always have an approval system.
Anyway, I would think developers should wait and see what happens
first after it is live.
On Jan 7, 9:59 am, Carmen Delessio<[email protected]> wrote:
Any app that has a 4 star rating is not what I would call hobbyist app, but
hobbyist apps exist. Google "Android crap apps" for some discussions on
this.
I am not saying anything about your app.
I am talking about the merits of the Amazon market vs, Google. The $99
threshold should be based on business expectation. I hope there is nothing
elitist about that.
My free app has over 100,000 downloads. I wish it made more money from
advertising.
The paid version went live on Christmas and has 100 downloads. I'm happy
with the initial response.
I do consider myself a hobbyist. Developing apps is something I do for fun
in addition to my full-time job. I'm hopeful it will pay for itself and just
maybe I'll have a hit app.
I did not put my first test apps on the google market. Some people do
that. Those apps will not be on Amazon market.
The $99 is the first filter
If I want to be in the app making business, then I'll make the decision on
the Amazon market based on whether I think I'll get more exposure,
downloads, etc.
If you think you can make the $99 back, then it is worth it. If Amazon
somehow features your app, then you might turn it into a big hit.
I've also advertised my app on Facebook. It does not pay for itself, but it
drives downloads and helps me figure out what works. I'm experimenting there
too.
Seeing what works in marketing for Android is still unknown. I would not
consider spending $99 the criterion for an elitist.
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Matt Pellerin<[email protected]> wrote:
My app has a 4 star rating and 250+ downloads, I can't afford the $99 and
I'm what your elitist attitude would consider a 'hobbyist'.
On Jan 7, 2011 6:55 AM, "Carmen Delessio"<[email protected]>
wrote:
I'm responding to the merits of using Amazon, not whether it makes sense
for
each individual developer.
But, that leads to an interesting phenomenon:
Developers that don't have $99 will not put their apps on Amazon.
That will keep "hobbyist" apps off the market and will make Amazon the
place
for developers who already have some success or who see appmaking as a
business.
The $99 is the first step in filtering out "hello world" apps.
The Amazon approval process should also improve quality.
Most importantly - why don't you check into this. I'm pretty sure I read
that the $99 was not being charged year 1.
Carmen
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Matt Pellerin<[email protected]> wrote:
That's great for you, it isn't for Devs with no extra money.
On Jan 7, 2011 6:41 AM, "Carmen Delessio"<[email protected]>
wrote:
The Amazon Android Market has3 things going for it:
- Purchasing from the web rather than a device
- Amazon's incredible ability as a merchandise/marketer
- they sell a lot of Android phones
I use Amazon for shopping the same way I use Facebook for social
networking. It is where I go first.
Their user interface, recommendations, and relevance always give me
something to check or look at.
If the people who purchased phones on Amazon are a bit like me, then
this
is
a good market.
Amazon may become my Android browsing experience - wherever I end up
buying.
Carmen
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 9:29 AM, aman<[email protected]> wrote:
Ignore it. +1
I don't think it's a good way to help out developers. It's more
like Amazon's way of taking a cut from developers. Really, Market is
now covering the majorities of the world from what it seems. There
is no point of paying extra $99 a year and spending lots of time
updating your apps elsewhere everytime you make a small software
change.
On Jan 7, 1:29 am, Al Sutton<[email protected]> wrote:
My view is that it's not a great place for developers. I've written
a
longer explanation athttp://blog.alsutton.com/2011/01/05/926/butin
a
nutshell the yearly $99 fee seems to be not worthwhile, the ability
for
them
to control pricing could be bad news for individual developers, I
have
concerns over listing as a non-US developer, and I'm a little
suspicious
as
to why you need to sign up to the portal just to view the T&Cs for
distribution.
Al.
On 6 Jan 2011, at 20:47, Rich wrote:
What is everyone's take on the Amazon Android market? Are you
waiting
to see how it goes before adding your apps, ignoring it entirely, or
already
adding your apps?
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