On Tuesday 05 September 2006 08:41, Dossy Shiobara wrote:
> (Apologies for the long email ahead ... but, I think it's worth a quick
> read.)

All very well said! I have done a number of language surveys over the years to 
find one that was thread-safe, fast and easy to extend. Tcl is the only one I 
have ever found, except for Java. Java is just too much for me to deal with, 
and you still lose easy access to all the C libraries that are developed. For 
anyone wanting to write their own network application but leverage the most 
code, AOLserver/Tcl can't be beat. If you want to download and install a 
bulletin board for your website, AOLserver isn't a great choice. Actually, it 
might be best to just rent web hosting and get your bbs. But this isn't why 
most of the AOLserver users are using AOLserver! Adding toy languages isn't 
going to help. (As much as we have to get real about how 'uncool' Tcl might 
be, we have to get real about these toy/specialized languages: they were 
never designed for this scale of operation.) 

I like the idea of an embeded JavaScript. It is obvious (or is it?) that with 
the isolated context, there would be no ability for this to be a server wide 
language, and no attempt to glue Tcl and JavaScript togeather. It sounds very 
much like nsproxy, as Nathan said he even worked on this idea. 

Anyway, if there was a push to market AOLserver, start with marketing the 
known long term strengths of AOLserver. Most 'choosers' of AOLserver did so 
because it offered a relatively clean environment for development. The market 
is for companies that want to produce a service and/or who plan on tending to 
customers who don't want to do their own development. If you try to do this 
development with Apache and a bunch of modules, you run the risk that, first, 
your product will look unoriginal and second, that someone could easily copy 
it (and third or zeroth: it takes too long to develop or doesn't integrate 
well, so it never takes off).  


tom jackson


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