I sort of lost track of Novell after Netware bit the dust. It just goes to
show how a dynamo like Microsoft can run over probably the most stable
fileserver software ever created. I'm sure the Novel/Microsoft conversation
could be a long thread all by it's self. But alas, this is a Linux forum.
Anyway, I shot Progeny a quick e-mail and will see where that end up.  I
don't want anything from Progeny, other then RPM's to fix security issues.

Joel


 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Poe
 > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 8:16 PM
 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Apache Frontpage support list
 > Subject: Re: [Apache-FP] FrontPage on Mandrake
 > 
 > No, Novell is *buying* Suse...Also just bought Ximian 
 > (that's how they 
 > got Red Carpet, Evolution and Mono).
 > 
 > But, and this is only my limited foresight, I'd be willing 
 > to bet .. at 
 > least maybe a quarter that Novell gets bought, if not 
 > majorly partnered 
 > with in a big way, by IBM...Who, by the way, invested $50 
 > million in the 
 > Suse deal with Novell...
 > 
 > But you see, Novell has an enterprise Directory (eDirectory) 
 > which is .. 
 > LEAPS AND BOUNDS better than Microsoft's AD.  And IBM needs 
 > a directory 
 > to glue all their stuff together..
 > 
 > Match made in heaven, if you ask me.....
 > 
 > (did I say I am also a Novell guy)  ;)
 > 
 > r
 > 
 > joel wrote:
 > 
 > > Interesting..  I thought Novell just got bought out by 
 > someone else.   I'll
 > >have to investigate this. As it surely could solve a lit of 
 > issues around
 > >here.  Of course, what about the updates to Mod-* or 
 > apache? I know we can
 > >rebuild the RPM's if we have source. But will they provide 
 > source for
 > >anything that conflicts with FrontPage.  I wouldn't expect 
 > them to support
 > >FrontPage extensions.
 > >
 > >We mostly run 7.2 and is very stable. I'm of the 'sleeping 
 > dogs' believe!
 > >
 > >Thanks for the link..
 > >
 > >Joel
 > >
 > > > -----Original Message-----
 > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Poe
 > > > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 7:40 PM
 > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Apache Frontpage support list
 > > > Subject: Re: [Apache-FP] FrontPage on Mandrake
 > > > 
 > > > Progeny / Novell it looks like..
 > > > 
 > > > http://www.progeny.com/products/transition/
 > > > 
 > > > Beginning January 1, 2004, Progeny will offer software 
 > > > updates for users 
 > > > of Red Hat^R Linux^R 7.2 and 7.3. This service is based 
 > on Progeny's 
 > > > Platform Services technology and will provide a flexible 
 > > > migration path 
 > > > for RHL subscribers.
 > > > 
 > > > Progeny Transition Service includes the following features:
 > > > 
 > > >     * Subscribers have access to a software repository containing
 > > >       security updates.
 > > >     * Patches will also be available via Novell^R 's 
 > > > Ximian^R Red Carpet
 > > >       Enterprise^T version 2.0.
 > > >     * Subscribers will be notified of security 
 > vulnerabilities and
 > > >       available patches.
 > > >     * Pricing is $5 per machine per month; or a flat rate of 
 > > > $2,500 per
 > > >       month for unlimited machines.
 > > >     * Quotes for custom platform services are available.
 > > >     * Limited to x86 support.
 > > > 
 > > > This service is part of Progeny's Platform Services 
 > > > <http://www.progeny.com/products/index.html>.
 > > > 
 > > > 
 > > > 
 > > > joel wrote:
 > > > 
 > > > > 
 > > > >Hey, now there's an enterprising idea. Do you have any 
 > > > further information
 > > > >on this company?  This could solve a lot of problems, Of 
 > > > course, taking for
 > > > >granted this company is reputable and has some sort of 
 > track record.
 > > > >
 > > > >I see Ensim is going to go from RedHat 7.3 to Fedora. We 
 > > > have a few servers
 > > > >that run Ensim, and we are holding our breath..
 > > > >
 > > > >Joel
 > > > >
 > > > > > -----Original Message-----
 > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 > Behalf Of Rob Poe
 > > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 6:42 PM
 > > > > > To: Apache Frontpage support list
 > > > > > Subject: Re: [Apache-FP] FrontPage on Mandrake
 > > > > > 
 > > > > > I think I'm just going to stick with RH 7.3, since .. uhm .. 
 > > > > > who was it 
 > > > > > .. anyway some company is going to provide updates 
 > for $5 / mo.
 > > > > > 
 > > > > > 
 > > > > > 
 > > > > > Floyd Morrissette wrote:
 > > > > > 
 > > > > > >With the news that RedHat was dropping free support of its 
 > > > > > distro I quickly
 > > > > > >started experimenting with Mandrake 9.2 since I heard it 
 > > > > > was based on
 > > > > > >RedHat. It just seemed the way to go and I don't have a lot 
 > > > > > of time to learn
 > > > > > >new distros and try them all out. When I installed Mandrake 
 > > > > > most of the
 > > > > > >paths were the same so I figured this was probably the way 
 > > > > > to go and I still
 > > > > > >think so.
 > > > > > >
 > > > > > >I worked out a few other things first then I finally 
 > > > got around to
 > > > > > >FrontPage. This was a nightmare to me who has very 
 > > > little background
 > > > > > >experience with computers in general. Everything I know I 
 > > > > > have taught
 > > > > > >myself. This may be a simple matter for some other people 
 > > > > > who are more
 > > > > > >experienced and I might not be contributing to the list at 
 > > > > > all, but I wanted
 > > > > > >to let everybody know that I did get FrontPage installed on 
 > > > > > Mandrake 9.2.
 > > > > > >
 > > > > > >The only testing I have done really is to get my FrontPage 
 > > > > > 2000 client to
 > > > > > >connect. Usually if I get it to connect and accept the 
 > > > user name and
 > > > > > >password then everything else that is supposed to work on 
 > > > > > the Linux version
 > > > > > >works.
 > > > > > >
 > > > > > >Right now everything I did is in my head and as soon as I 
 > > > > > get it all down in
 > > > > > >writing and go through it again from a fresh install I will 
 > > > > > post it here if
 > > > > > >anybody wants to know what I did.
 > > > > > >
 > > > > > >Josh if you want to go the Mandrake route please feel free 
 > > > > > to use any of my
 > > > > > >notes on your site. I hope it helps because this list has 
 > > > > > sure helped me. If
 > > > > > >I don't see any response to this message then I will assume 
 > > > > > nobody cares to
 > > > > > >know and I won't bother posting.
 > > > > > >
 > > > > > >Floyd Morrissette
 > > > > > >www.newwebsite.com
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