Will do. No problem with the confusion, I am glad we clarified it.
Please make sure the people submitting talks uses the right CFP, and when we come closer, I need an email with the track, so I can pick the talks. rgds jan I. On 10 June 2015 at 18:41, Henry Saputra <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks, we would like to have Kostas, as representative from Apache > Flink PMCs, to be in the committee for Apache Con: Big Data given that > it will be happening in Europe and would be nice to have someone known > in Europe Big Data community to represent. > > I have not contacted LF about it and would love if you could contact > them on behalf of me =) > > Thanks again, and apologize again for the confusion. > > - Henry > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 9:31 AM, jan i <[email protected]> wrote: > > HI > > > > Now even I understand it :-) > > > > They are separate conferences, and it is NOT a problem to build a track > in > > "apache: core" and have single talks > > in "apache: Big data". > > > > We can for sure add Kostas to the big data committee. We are just trying > to > > keep the committee small and efficient, > > based on experience. I would have thought that flink feels represented by > > e.g. Roman. > > > > Have you contacted LF directly (that is how I read the mail) otherwise I > can > > do it. > > > > rgds > > jan i. > > > > > > > > > > On 10 June 2015 at 17:09, Henry Saputra <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Sincerely apologize for creating the confusion. > >> > >> For the ApacheCon Big Data, I was trying to ask LF to extend to > >> committee to include Kostas to help reviews talks proposals. > >> > >> If the concern is that you could not have same person managing tracks > >> in Core and as committee in the Big Data the I think we could update > >> accordingly. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Henry > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 7:51 AM, Kostas Tzoumas > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Hi Jan! > >> > > >> > As far as I understood, Core and Big Data are separate conferences, so > >> > we > >> > were planning to submit a regular talk to Big Data, and create a track > >> > at > >> > Core for more in-depth presentation. > >> > > >> > Are Core and Big Data mutually exclusive, as in that projects should > >> > decide > >> > which one they participate in? > >> > > >> > Best, > >> > Kostas > >> > > >> > On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 1:47 AM, jan i <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Hi. > >> >> > >> >> Now I am really confused. 30May I got an email from you stating you > >> >> would > >> >> make a FLINK track, and since then > >> >> you have been on the program committee for "apacheCon: CORE". > >> >> http://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/FrontPage > >> >> > >> >> Based on the number of mails I have received from FLINK, there seems > to > >> >> be > >> >> some confusion among the PMC also. > >> >> > >> >> Currently Project FLINK is registred to produce a full track (6 > >> >> presentations) for "apacheCON: CORE". If the PMC feels > >> >> the project is better located in "apache: Big data", then we remove > the > >> >> track, and you still have to submit presentations > >> >> to the CFP. > >> >> > >> >> I am in no way specialist in project FLINK, so I cannot determine > which > >> >> event is better for the project, the PMC knows > >> >> that. Please make sure your community uses the correct CFP (CORE or > Big > >> >> Data) to be sure we do not loose valuable > >> >> presentations. > >> >> > >> >> rgds > >> >> jan i. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On 10 June 2015 at 03:11, Kostas Tzoumas <[email protected]> > >> >> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> Hi Jan, > >> >>> > >> >>> I would be happy to be in the program committee. I am PMC member of > >> >>> Flink, and, during my day job, co-founder and CEO of data Artisans. > >> >>> > >> >>> Best, > >> >>> Kostas > >> >>> > >> >>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Henry Saputra > >> >>> <[email protected]> > >> >>> wrote: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Hi Kostas, > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Could you reply to Jan, and the [email protected] about > >> >>>> being added as project committee for Apache Big Data Conf ? > >> >>>> > >> >>>> - Henry > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> >>>> From: jan i <[email protected]> > >> >>>> Date: Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 7:58 AM > >> >>>> Subject: Re: apacheCon: Core and Apache: big data Budapest 28 > >> >>>> September - 2 October > >> >>>> To: Henry Saputra <[email protected]> > >> >>>> Cc: jan i <[email protected]>, [email protected] > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> On 8 June 2015 at 06:37, Henry Saputra <[email protected]> > >> >>>> wrote: > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > Hi Jan, > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > I would like to have representative from Apache Flink PMCs, maybe > >> >>>> > Stephan Ewen as VP, to represent in the program committee of > Apache > >> >>>> > Big Data conf. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Please have Stephan sent a short email, or we can add you, this is > >> >>>> totally up to the project. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> As soon as you change the "maybe" to a "please add" it will happen. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > One of the main reasons is that Apache Flink already raised hands > >> >>>> > to > >> >>>> > have full track in the Apache big data and have bigger > >> >>>> > representation > >> >>>> > and interest in terms of Big Data processing in Europe. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> And we sure hope you will continue to make presentations. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> One of the reasons for not allowing tracks it to coordinate that > >> >>>> "big" > >> >>>> talks are not in the same slot. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> rgds > >> >>>> jan i. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > Thanks, > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > Henry > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 11:35 AM, jan i <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >>>> > > Hi PMC. > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > I have been reading mailing lists, and also received mails, > from > >> >>>> > > which I can > >> >>>> > > see some confusion about the 2 events in Budapest. > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > I would like to clarify a couple of things, which seems not to > be > >> >>>> > > sufficient > >> >>>> > > clarified in my previous email. > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > The selection process for "apacheCON: core" is look alike to > the > >> >>>> > > last couple > >> >>>> > > of apacheCON: > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > - We have 7 tracks over 2 days, giving space for ca. 72 > >> >>>> > > presentations. > >> >>>> > > Deadline July 1. > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > - Any project/PMC that wants to build a track, sends an email > to > >> >>>> > > apachecon-discuss@ or me identifying a committee. The > >> >>>> > > presentations > >> >>>> > > for the track must be submitted to CFP. The presentations in > the > >> >>>> > > track will > >> >>>> > > be selected by the committee. > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > - The remaining presentation slots, will be filled with > >> >>>> > > presentations from > >> >>>> > > the CFP, > >> >>>> > > hopefully someone will step up and help selecting. > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > The selection process for "apache: big data" is also look alike > >> >>>> > > to > >> >>>> > > the last > >> >>>> > > couple of > >> >>>> > > apacheCON, with some small differences: > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > - We have 7 tracks over 3 days, giving space for ca 126 > >> >>>> > > presentations. > >> >>>> > > Deadline uly 15. > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > - We have a program committee in place > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > > http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apache-big-data-europe/program/program-committee > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > Doug Cutting, Owen O’Malley, Roman Shaposhnik, Reynold Xin and > >> >>>> > > C. Craig Ross Director of Developer Programs at Linux > Foundation > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > They will select the talks. If you as PMC does not feel > >> >>>> > > represented > >> >>>> > > by the > >> >>>> > > program committee, then LF is happy to extend to committee, > >> >>>> > > please > >> >>>> > > send an > >> >>>> > > email to > >> >>>> > > apachecon-discuss@ or me. > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > Because there is a program committee in place that balances the > >> >>>> > > whole event, > >> >>>> > > project cannot build tracks on their own, but nothing hinders a > >> >>>> > > PMC > >> >>>> > > from > >> >>>> > > making a suggestion of how the track should look like. > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > Because LF is the producer and carries the financial risk, they > >> >>>> > > have > >> >>>> > > the > >> >>>> > > last word in the selection process, but they have assured me > that > >> >>>> > > they will > >> >>>> > > not interfere with the above "ruleset". > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > Please remember these 2 events are our most important window to > >> >>>> > > the > >> >>>> > > world, > >> >>>> > > it is our responsibility to provide content that people (not > only > >> >>>> > > other > >> >>>> > > committers) want to hear ! If we (being ASF) manage to make > these > >> >>>> > > 2 > >> >>>> > > events a > >> >>>> > > success, the apacheCON team, will have more freedom to make the > >> >>>> > > next > >> >>>> > > events > >> >>>> > > even better. > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > If you have questions or comments, please do not hesitate to > send > >> >>>> > > an > >> >>>> > > email > >> >>>> > > to apachecon-discuss@ or me. > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > Thanks in advance for helping making these events a big > success. > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > rgds > >> >>>> > > > >> >>>> > > jan i. > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> -- > >> >>> > >> >>> Data Artisans GmbH | Tempelhofer Ufer 17 | 10963 Berlin > >> >>> > >> >>> phone +493055599146 > >> >>> mobile +4917671721261 > >> >>> > >> >>> Registered at Amtsgericht Charlottenburg - HRB 158244 B > >> >>> Managing Directors: Kostas Tzoumas, Stephan Ewen > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > > >> > Data Artisans GmbH | Tempelhofer Ufer 17 | 10963 Berlin > >> > > >> > phone +493055599146 > >> > mobile +4917671721261 > >> > > >> > Registered at Amtsgericht Charlottenburg - HRB 158244 B > >> > Managing Directors: Kostas Tzoumas, Stephan Ewen > > > > >
