Hi Anthony,

I performed some test:

I tried refreshing in three ways enter in url, F5 and CTRL-F5

with x of y i mean number of times (x) the problem occured in y
refreshes
so 10 of 15 means 10 times $try not defined in 15 refreshed

Method 1) Refreshing via enter in url bar (all with firebug
deinstalled)

with webdeveloper 7 of 15
webdeveloper disabled 12 of 15
Webdeveloper deinstalled interval of 0.5 second 2 tests 10 of 15 / 5
of 15
Webdeveloper deinstalled interval of 1 second 10 of 15
Webdeveloper deinstalled interval of 2 second 6 of 15

Method 2) Refreshing using F5

Webdeveloper deinstalled interval of 0.5 second 1 of 15
Webdeveloper deinstalled interval of 1 second 1 of 15
Webdeveloper deinstalled interval of 2 second ? of 15

Method 3) Refreshing using CTRL-F5

Webdeveloper deinstalled interval of 0.5 second 2 tests 0 of 15 / 0 of
15

It seems that the problem occurs most often when entering in url to
refresh. When using CTRL-F5 it does not occur at all!

It's not related to firebug or Webdeveloper toolbar for both were
deinstalled during (some) tests.

On 5 mrt, 03:52, Anthony Catel <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ok,
>
> Keep me in touch.
>
> But we got another problem here :
>
> - You said that your app stop working sometimes. Which appear to not be
> related to "try is not defined", right?
>
> Le 05/03/2011 03:48, egarretsen a crit :
>
> > Hi all,
>
> > So far i cannot replicate this issue in Opera, or Chrome on Linux.
>
> > I installed firebug lite and webdeveloper toolbar for Chrome, but do
> > not get this error.
> > Opere also does not throw this error.
>
> > I will try to deinstall webdeloper and firebug for Firefox and see if
> > the error still occurs.
>
> > Regards,
>
> > Evertjan
>
> > On 5 mrt, 03:21, egarretsen<[email protected]>  wrote:
> >> Hi all,
>
> >> I'm using webdeveloper and firebug, the sourcecode where the error
> >> occurs in my case is:
>
> >> onStateChange: function(){
> >>                  if (this.xhr.readyState != 4 || !this.running) return;
> >>                  this.running = false;
> >>                  this.status = 0;
> >>                  $try(function(){
> >>                          this.status = this.xhr.status;
> >>                  }.bind(this));
> >>                  this.xhr.onreadystatechange = $empty;
> >>                  if (this.options.isSuccess.call(this, this.status)){
> >>                          this.response = {text: this.xhr.responseText, xml:
> >> this.xhr.responseXML};
> >>                          this.success(this.response.text, 
> >> this.response.xml);
> >>                  } else {
> >>                          this.response = {text: null, xml: null};
> >>                          this.failure();
> >>                  }
> >>          },
>
> >> Maybe this can be of help?
>
> >> On 4 mrt, 14:26, Jochen Hebbrecht<[email protected]>  wrote:
>
> >>> No, when the JS error gets throwed, the APE client can still connect
> >>> to the server.
> >>> But ...
> >>> 1/ ... it's not a best practice to have JS errors in your code
> >>> 2/ ... I have no idea how to start searching for the problem where the
> >>> client stops connecting to the server, so the only reason I can found
> >>> is the JS error
> >>> Jochen
> >>> On Mar 4, 1:46 pm, Anthony Catel<[email protected]>  wrote:
> >>>> Hey,
> >>>> What I need to know is, does the fail happen when "try is not defined"
> >>>> is throwed?
> >>>> Le 04/03/2011 13:00, Jochen Hebbrecht a crit :
> >>>>> ARGH! Nopez, having the error again now ... :-( ... Installing that
> >>>>> package doesn't solve the problem :-( ...
> >>>>> On Mar 4, 10:57 am, Jochen Hebbrecht<[email protected]>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> I seem to have fixed the problem by installing this package in 
> >>>>>> PHP:http://pear.php.net/package/Net_Socket/.
> >>>>>> Can somebody confirm this solves the problem?
> >>>>>> On Mar 3, 5:12 pm, Anthony Catel<[email protected]>    wrote:
> >>>>>>> Oups, wrong reply ! (it was not for you)
> >>>>>>> Le 03/03/2011 17:10, Jochen Hebbrecht a crit :
> >>>>>>>> Hmm, can you clarify that reply? :-). Do I have to build the JS file
> >>>>>>>> by myself? Because I just downloaded it from the Build folder in GIT.
> >>>>>>>> What do you mean with: "install ZIP"?
> >>>>>>>> On Mar 3, 3:56 pm, Anthony Catel<[email protected]>      wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> I guess that spidemronkey failed to configure.
> >>>>>>>>> cd ./deps/js/src/&&      ./configure
> >>>>>>>>> I guess that you have a "ZIP not found"
> >>>>>>>>> =>      install zip
> >>>>>>>>> Le 03/03/2011 15:40, Jochen Hebbrecht a crit :
> >>>>>>>>>> No, when the error comes, APE can still continue work, or it can 
> >>>>>>>>>> stop.
> >>>>>>>>>> I cannot figure out WHEN it stops working. I have no idea how to 
> >>>>>>>>>> debug
> >>>>>>>>>> this problem. The moment I refresh the page, the problem is gone 
> >>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 3, 2:14 pm, Anthony Catel<[email protected]>        wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> But, is it stop working when the "try is not defined" happen? or 
> >>>>>>>>>>> it's
> >>>>>>>>>>> not related?
> >>>>>>>>>>> Le 03/03/2011 13:34, Jochen Hebbrecht a crit :
> >>>>>>>>>>>> We have this issue in Firefox 3.6.14. I have no idea how to 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> reproduce
> >>>>>>>>>>>> it. Sometimes the call to the APE server is gone. Pushing F5 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> solves
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the problem.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we are doing somehting wrong with the client?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> You can see it in action on this 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> page:http://www.pipa.be/en/pigeons-for-sale/online/auctions
> >>>>>>>>>>>> * we use the Javascript client (not the Mootools Client). This
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Javascript client is aggregated with other Javascript files by 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Drupal
> >>>>>>>>>>>> * we use the apeCore.js
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 3, 1:02 pm, Anthony Catel<[email protected]>          
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Wes always faced this error without managed to find where it 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> was located.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> But when it happen, APE doesn't stop working (at least that's 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> what we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> realize).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In what browser did you see APE stop working because of that?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Anthony
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 03/03/2011 12:58, Jochen Hebbrecht a crit :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not using Firebug, I'm using the Webdeveloper toolbar.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure this is not a bug in Firebug/Webdeveloper 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> toolbar, but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a real Javascript error.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are also facing the problem that on some page loads, APE 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't work. This really happens at random, so hard to 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> debug/fix. So
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm thinking that this issue might be related to the JS errors
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 3, 12:51 pm, Anthony Catel<[email protected]>          
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's an issue with firebug. It's not a real error (the script 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't stop).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just don't look at it ;)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 03/03/2011 12:45, egarretsen a crit :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm also experiencing this error sometimes, not on every 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> load /
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reload.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also do not know why it appears.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Evertjan
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3 mrt, 12:43, Jochen Hebbrecht<[email protected]> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>              wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are sometimes getting this Javascript error:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $try is not defined
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apeCore.js - line 1535
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm using the latest version (from GIT).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see the problem on this 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> link:http://www.pipa.be/en/pigeons-for-sale/online/auctions/andre-verbesse...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any idea's why we sometimes get this Javascript error?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jochen

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