I cannot reproduce the error on the chatdemo on the www.ape-project.org
site. Probably because it's using the mootools client instead of the
javascript client?

On 6 mrt, 02:39, egarretsen <[email protected]> wrote:
> Still researching the problem.
>
> I found a "bug" while looking for the source of the problem.
>
> The line
> config.identifier = config.identifier || APE.config.identifier;
>
> is missing in apeClientJS.js in the load function. If a user does not
> provide an identifier then identifier ape_undefined is used.
>
> Will try to look further into the problem.
>
> On 5 mrt, 15:59, Anthony Catel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hey,
>
> > Thanks you for your test :) Pretty intersting.
> > Just to be sure, are you able to reproduce the same behaviour 
> > onwww.ape-project.org/onone of the demo?
>
> > Le 05/03/2011 04:31, egarretsen a crit :
>
> > > Hi Anthony,
>
> > > I performed some test:
>
> > > I tried refreshing in three ways enter in url, F5 and CTRL-F5
>
> > > with x of y i mean number of times (x) the problem occured in y
> > > refreshes
> > > so 10 of 15 means 10 times $try not defined in 15 refreshed
>
> > > Method 1) Refreshing via enter in url bar (all with firebug
> > > deinstalled)
>
> > > with webdeveloper 7 of 15
> > > webdeveloper disabled 12 of 15
> > > Webdeveloper deinstalled interval of 0.5 second 2 tests 10 of 15 / 5
> > > of 15
> > > Webdeveloper deinstalled interval of 1 second 10 of 15
> > > Webdeveloper deinstalled interval of 2 second 6 of 15
>
> > > Method 2) Refreshing using F5
>
> > > Webdeveloper deinstalled interval of 0.5 second 1 of 15
> > > Webdeveloper deinstalled interval of 1 second 1 of 15
> > > Webdeveloper deinstalled interval of 2 second ? of 15
>
> > > Method 3) Refreshing using CTRL-F5
>
> > > Webdeveloper deinstalled interval of 0.5 second 2 tests 0 of 15 / 0 of
> > > 15
>
> > > It seems that the problem occurs most often when entering in url to
> > > refresh. When using CTRL-F5 it does not occur at all!
>
> > > It's not related to firebug or Webdeveloper toolbar for both were
> > > deinstalled during (some) tests.
>
> > > On 5 mrt, 03:52, Anthony Catel<[email protected]>  wrote:
> > >> Ok,
>
> > >> Keep me in touch.
>
> > >> But we got another problem here :
>
> > >> - You said that your app stop working sometimes. Which appear to not be
> > >> related to "try is not defined", right?
>
> > >> Le 05/03/2011 03:48, egarretsen a crit :
>
> > >>> Hi all,
> > >>> So far i cannot replicate this issue in Opera, or Chrome on Linux.
> > >>> I installed firebug lite and webdeveloper toolbar for Chrome, but do
> > >>> not get this error.
> > >>> Opere also does not throw this error.
> > >>> I will try to deinstall webdeloper and firebug for Firefox and see if
> > >>> the error still occurs.
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>> Evertjan
> > >>> On 5 mrt, 03:21, egarretsen<[email protected]>    wrote:
> > >>>> Hi all,
> > >>>> I'm using webdeveloper and firebug, the sourcecode where the error
> > >>>> occurs in my case is:
> > >>>> onStateChange: function(){
> > >>>>                   if (this.xhr.readyState != 4 || !this.running) 
> > >>>> return;
> > >>>>                   this.running = false;
> > >>>>                   this.status = 0;
> > >>>>                   $try(function(){
> > >>>>                           this.status = this.xhr.status;
> > >>>>                   }.bind(this));
> > >>>>                   this.xhr.onreadystatechange = $empty;
> > >>>>                   if (this.options.isSuccess.call(this, this.status)){
> > >>>>                           this.response = {text: 
> > >>>> this.xhr.responseText, xml:
> > >>>> this.xhr.responseXML};
> > >>>>                           this.success(this.response.text, 
> > >>>> this.response.xml);
> > >>>>                   } else {
> > >>>>                           this.response = {text: null, xml: null};
> > >>>>                           this.failure();
> > >>>>                   }
> > >>>>           },
> > >>>> Maybe this can be of help?
> > >>>> On 4 mrt, 14:26, Jochen Hebbrecht<[email protected]>    wrote:
> > >>>>> No, when the JS error gets throwed, the APE client can still connect
> > >>>>> to the server.
> > >>>>> But ...
> > >>>>> 1/ ... it's not a best practice to have JS errors in your code
> > >>>>> 2/ ... I have no idea how to start searching for the problem where the
> > >>>>> client stops connecting to the server, so the only reason I can found
> > >>>>> is the JS error
> > >>>>> Jochen
> > >>>>> On Mar 4, 1:46 pm, Anthony Catel<[email protected]>    wrote:
> > >>>>>> Hey,
> > >>>>>> What I need to know is, does the fail happen when "try is not 
> > >>>>>> defined"
> > >>>>>> is throwed?
> > >>>>>> Le 04/03/2011 13:00, Jochen Hebbrecht a crit :
> > >>>>>>> ARGH! Nopez, having the error again now ... :-( ... Installing that
> > >>>>>>> package doesn't solve the problem :-( ...
> > >>>>>>> On Mar 4, 10:57 am, Jochen Hebbrecht<[email protected]>
> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> I seem to have fixed the problem by installing this package in 
> > >>>>>>>> PHP:http://pear.php.net/package/Net_Socket/.
> > >>>>>>>> Can somebody confirm this solves the problem?
> > >>>>>>>> On Mar 3, 5:12 pm, Anthony Catel<[email protected]>      wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> Oups, wrong reply ! (it was not for you)
> > >>>>>>>>> Le 03/03/2011 17:10, Jochen Hebbrecht a crit :
> > >>>>>>>>>> Hmm, can you clarify that reply? :-). Do I have to build the JS 
> > >>>>>>>>>> file
> > >>>>>>>>>> by myself? Because I just downloaded it from the Build folder in 
> > >>>>>>>>>> GIT.
> > >>>>>>>>>> What do you mean with: "install ZIP"?
> > >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 3, 3:56 pm, Anthony Catel<[email protected]>        
> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I guess that spidemronkey failed to configure.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> cd ./deps/js/src/&&        ./configure
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I guess that you have a "ZIP not found"
> > >>>>>>>>>>> =>        install zip
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Le 03/03/2011 15:40, Jochen Hebbrecht a crit :
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> No, when the error comes, APE can still continue work, or it 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> can stop.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> I cannot figure out WHEN it stops working. I have no idea how 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> to debug
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> this problem. The moment I refresh the page, the problem is 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> gone ...
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 3, 2:14 pm, Anthony Catel<[email protected]>          
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> But, is it stop working when the "try is not defined" happen? 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> or it's
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> not related?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 03/03/2011 13:34, Jochen Hebbrecht a crit :
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have this issue in Firefox 3.6.14. I have no idea how to 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> reproduce
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. Sometimes the call to the APE server is gone. Pushing F5 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> solves
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the problem.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we are doing somehting wrong with the client?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see it in action on this 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> page:http://www.pipa.be/en/pigeons-for-sale/online/auctions
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> * we use the Javascript client (not the Mootools Client). 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Javascript client is aggregated with other Javascript files 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> by Drupal
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> * we use the apeCore.js
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 3, 1:02 pm, Anthony Catel<[email protected]>         
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>    wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wes always faced this error without managed to find where 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it was located.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But when it happen, APE doesn't stop working (at least 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's what we
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> realize).
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In what browser did you see APE stop working because of 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anthony
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 03/03/2011 12:58, Jochen Hebbrecht a crit :
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not using Firebug, I'm using the Webdeveloper toolbar.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure this is not a bug in Firebug/Webdeveloper 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> toolbar, but
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a real Javascript error.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are also facing the problem that on some page loads, 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> APE just
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't work. This really happens at random, so hard to 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> debug/fix. So
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm thinking that this issue might be related to the JS 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> errors
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 3, 12:51 pm, Anthony Catel<[email protected]>      
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's an issue with firebug. It's not a real error (the 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> script doesn't stop).
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just don't look at it ;)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 03/03/2011 12:45, egarretsen a crit :
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm also experiencing this error sometimes, not on every 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> load /
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reload.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I also do not know why it appears.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Evertjan
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3 mrt, 12:43, Jochen 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hebbrecht<[email protected]>                
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are sometimes getting this Javascript error:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $try is not defined
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apeCore.js - line 1535
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm using the latest version (from GIT).
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can see the problem on this 
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> link:http://www.pipa.be/en/pigeons-for-sale/online/auctions/andre-verbesse...
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any idea's why we sometimes get this Javascript error?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jochen

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