Folks,
Al 07/04/2012 02:00 AM, En/na Jacob Nordfalk ha escrit:
I am so happy that this is really comming true: A zero-install*
locally running Apertium translator :-)
And multiplatform: a real alternative to current efforts to port
Apertium to windows. Very clever.
I think these jars could be included as releases when language pairs are
released too, or when the Java port of Apertium and lttoolbox is
updated. There should, of course, be a source package too.
Let me add that Mikel has also upgraded Apertium-viewer to use the new
stuff (its not zero-install yet, but that'll probably come),
Hey, where is it?
giving teachers, students and curious people a great and easy
opportunity to peek at and play with the inner workings of rule base
maching translation, without using any time/energy on installation or
setup.
You'll just point the students to a web page, a Java program will
open, and they can edit input (or or any stage of the translation),
and follow how translation is done, with zero setup or installation
effort.
* yes yes I know the limitations:
- you need a Java runtime installed,
I think in most cases one can consider this to be part of the usual
things you install in an operating system.
and
- only the pairs using core Apertium is zero-install, you'd still
need to install HFST, constraint grammar and other external stuff.
Yes,
Is android-sdk free software? I hope so! I couldn't determine
it from
the contents of android-sdk_r20-linux.tgz.
Yes, it is. Look here <http://source.android.com/>. It mostly uses
the Apache license, but some parts (like the Linux kernel) use GPLv2.
In any case, the android-sdk is only used to convert the transfer
classes from standard Java bytecode to Dalvik bytecode, which is
what Android uses. So, actually, only dx.jar is required (which is
part of the android-sdk and takes only about 1MB) to perform the
conversion. This way, it would be possible to keep dx.jar
somewhere and offer it to download instead of making everybody
install the android-sdk.
If its 'just' 1MB I think we should just make it easy for people and
let them forget about installing the Android SDK: Just add
it to the libs/ folder of lttoolbox-java.
Can we do this with the license mix in android-sdk?
[snip]
Therefore I think we should consider if we can live with 6-12% 'java
bloat' and if this new, easy format could be an easier and more
flexible alternative for distribution and installation of language
pairs for end users than downloading sourceforge packages ?
Well, there is another limitation. Formats. It would be great if the
user interface contained a way to process documents in ODT, HTML, etc.
Apertium is widely used in connection with the OmegaT CAT tool. Having
Apertium plugins for OmegaT would be a great addition.
These are maybe ideas for GSoC 2013!
Cheers
--
Mikel L. Forcada (http://www.dlsi.ua.es/~mlf/)
Departament de Llenguatges i Sistemes Informàtics
Universitat d'Alacant
E-03071 Alacant, Spain
Phone: +34 96 590 9776
Fax: +34 96 590 9326
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