> X-Mailer: Evolution 3.2.2-1+b1 > Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 18:05:12 +0000 > From: Francis Tyers <[email protected]> > To: apertium-stuff <[email protected]> > Cc: apertium-celtic <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected], [email protected] > Subject: [Apertium-stuff] paid work involving Apertium > Hello everyone (and sorry in advance for cross-posting), > > (.......................) > > The work will involve writing rules using context to choose alternative > translations of ambiguous words. For example, if we have the phrase in > English: > > "We can see from the most recent > report that the policy is not working." > > The word "work" has several possible translations, among them "trabajar" > and "funcionar". The most frequent, or most general translation is > "trabajar". But in this case, a better translation would be "funcionar". >
It is the same in French with the verb "marcher". The most frequent meaning is "to walk", but it can also mean "to work" (functionar). Examples of sentences : Mon installation de Linux commence à marcher, mais sur un ordinateur, c'est Windows XP qui ne marche plus ! (My Linux install start working, but on a computer, it is Windows XP which does not work anymore !) L'ADSL de mon nouvel appartement ne marche pas encore. (The ADSL of my new place does not work yet). Un bébé de 6 mois ne marche pas encore. (A 6 months old baby does not walk yet). Mes vieilles motos ne marchent plus. (My old motorcycles don't work anymore.) Un mort ne marche plus. En fait, plus rien ne marche dans son corps. (A dead person does not walk anymore. In fact nothing does not work anymore in his body). For "marcher" meaning to walk or to work, the difference may be if it is someting with a biological life (to walk) or not (to work). So, there could be a semantic dictionary with this kind of attribute (living or not). This information may be included in monodix or in a separate dictionary. The difference between semantic information and morphological information is that semantic information does not change from a language to another. For the particular of English, masculine and feminine gender means living, but animal names also refer to living things, but with neutral gender. Sometimes, the good choice can be done using a multiword. So : "ça marche" or "ça ne marche pas" very frequently means, "it works" or "it does not work". Ex : Un disque SATA sur un ordinateur des années 80, ça ne marche pas. (A SATA hard disk on a computer of the 80's, it does not work). But : Un bébé de 6 mois, ça ne marche pas. (A 6 months old baby does not walk). And sometimes, the information can even be in a previous sentence : Il a jeté son ordinateur par la fenêtre. Maintenant il ne marche plus. (He through his computer through the windows. Now it does not work anymore). Il s'est cassé la jambe. Maintenant il ne marche plus. (He broke his leg. Now he does not walk anymore). There can be also jokes, which are often impossible to translate, even for a human : Il marche ton ordinateur ? Non, mais il fonctionne ! So, your subject is interesting, but a very deep analysis may be needed to do always the good choice. A thing that Google or Systran (from a French entreprise) http://services.portail.free.fr/ do not succeed. Good luck ! -------------------------------- Bernard Chardonneau (France) Phone : [33] 1 64 90 87 04 (from Sept to June except holidays) GSM phone : [33] 6 49 95 13 95 (french scholl holidays, C zone) Multilingual websites for my free softwares : http://libremail.free.fr and http://libremail.tuxfamily.org http://cyloop.tuxfamily.org (mainly translated with Apertium) My general website (in french only) http://bech.free.fr ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost today and get our sweet Data Nerd shirt too! http://p.sf.net/sfu/newrelic-dev2dev _______________________________________________ Apertium-stuff mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff
