eng-cat, for example, is also using apertium-separable before bilingual: https://github.com/apertium/apertium-eng-cat/blob/master/modes.xml
Marc worked on integrating that module in the pipeline. The main difference seems to be that none of these pairs (fra-cat, eng-cat,...) use a reversed compiled dictionary, so we may have not faced the problems you have. -- Xavi Ivars < http://xavi.ivars.me > El dt., 29 de gen. 2019, 06:53, Hèctor Alòs i Font <hectora...@gmail.com> va escriure: > Missatge de Jonathan Washington <jonathan.n.washing...@gmail.com> del dia > dt., 29 de gen. 2019 a les 6:37: > >> >> пн, 28 янв. 2019 г. в 15:32, Hèctor Alòs i Font <hectora...@gmail.com>: >> >>> Missatge de Francis Tyers <fty...@prompsit.com> del dia dl., 28 de gen. >>> 2019 a les 21:13: >>> >>>> >>>> There is a lot of functionality that is not used widely that could be >>>> really >>>> used to improve performance of language pairs. >>>> >>>> * apertium-separable >>>> * weights in lttoolbox >>>> * weighted transfer >>>> >>> >>> I'd like to try them. I have already used apertium-separable en fra-cat >>> and I really helps, >>> >> >> Saluton Hèctor, >> >> I'm curious how you fared with apertium-separable. I have a specific >> question about it: >> >> What is your pipeline now? My imagined pipeline is something like this: >> [xxx tagger] → [xxx-yyy lsx] → [xxx-yyy dix] → [lrx] → [t*x] → >> [yyy-xxx.reverse lsx] → [yyy generator] >> >> With this pipeline, you have to reverse-compile (in theory supported) the >> apertium-seperable transducer for the opposite direction and include that >> in your pipeline before morphological generation. >> >> However, dolphingarlic and I were having trouble getting that working in >> eng-deu. Our work is in this branch: >> https://github.com/apertium/apertium-eng-deu/tree/separable-words >> > > The call to the apertium-separable module stands in two different places, > depending on the side of the translation. > > For fra2cat it is placed just after pretransfer, before lexical selection > and transfer. But in cat2fra it is like you say: between transfer and > generation. ( > https://github.com/apertium/apertium-fra-cat/blob/master/modes.xml ). > > In the fra-cat pair apertium-separable is used for multiword verbal > expressions (like e.g. "avoir lieu") defined in the dictionaries. The > problem is in the negative forms, e.g. "n'a pas lieu". In fra2cat it is > changed to "n'a lieu pas" before it is searched in the dictionary. In > cat2fra the usual pipeline gives something like "ne<morph stuff> > avoir<morph stuff> lieu<morph stuff> pas<morph stuff>", so after transfer > "pas<morph stuff>" is reordered and just after "n'a pas lieu" is generated. > > You can take a look on > https://github.com/apertium/apertium-fra-cat/blob/master/apertium-fra-cat.fra-cat.l1x > and > https://github.com/apertium/apertium-fra-cat/blob/master/apertium-fra-cat.cat-fra.l2x > > Hèctor > _______________________________________________ > Apertium-stuff mailing list > Apertium-stuff@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/apertium-stuff >
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