Hi Perhar: Are you following Paul's advice to defend the indefensible?
And since I have no ties to Africa, could you please provide evidence before making baseless claims? While you claim to represent the 9000 members of APNIC, such as "APNIC community and others at large have put faith in him, which is why he is DG of APNIC“. By calling me "narrative building"? At least, I've spoken with hundreds of members who are all opposed to Paul's action. How many people have you spoken with? What is NRS standing? It is available on their website NRS.help. You clearly haven't read or watched their video, by making ridiculous claims. 99% of the APNIC community (those 9000 members) aren't even on this list; how many of them do you know personally? In my opinion, Paul's letter is an attempt to interfere with the rule of law in a sovereign nation, as well as the constitutional separation of powers between the judicial and executive branches of government. You are welcome to back such a top-down approach. And for the true community here, you are welcome to form your own opinion. NRO letter: https://www.nro.net/nro-letter-to-mauritius-government/ Press analysis: https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202207/1271059.shtml AFRINIC’s suspended CEO making attempt to appoint directors though ATU: https://www.nrs.help/post/exposed-suspended-ceo-in-secret-appeal-calling-for-atu-interference On Tue, 23 Aug 2022 at 12:53, RS perhar <[email protected]> wrote: > I am glad you replied with what ever information you have. Lets take it > piece by piece and understand-: > > 1. You seem to have relied on the post of NRS to make the allegations. > What is NRS standing? Is it trying backdoor means to muscle in to dislodge > AFRINIC? The post you have reffered does not mention who wrote it just a > mysterious NRS Team? The post is a classic example of targeted paid > journalism. The allegations made ad nauseam are with no evidence, logic, > reasoning and research analysis. To me it falls in category of scurrilous > writing to be dust binned. > > Now coming to the letter of Eddy to ATU which you have reffered to as the > mother lode of corrupt dealing? I have read through the entire letter. My > observations-: > 1. Para 1 Is Introductory nothing controversial. > 2. Para 2 Informs of the litigations that have led to lack of quorum in > AFRINIC Board. > 3. Para 3 Informs of urgency to revive AFRINIC Board. > 4. Para 4 Informs that not possible or practical to appoint Board > members as per constitution. Hence as a registered member he is going to > apply to Supreme Court of Mauritius to appoint Directors. > 5. Para 5 & 6 In these paras Eddy is requesting ATU to recommend four > or more names of suitable candidates with their CVs who can take on the > responsibility of Director if the Supreme Court so desires and for the > duration it desires. > > Having gone through it multiple times I fail to understand where the > underhand request of his choice and such allegations come from? It is a > very clear cut letter in its meaning and intent. I do not know how you or > NRS Team have read in-between the lines of simple english which I also > understand fairly well. > > "I am part of the APNIC community, and I believe the fact that Paul is trying > to interfere with the foreign rule of law has let a large part of the > community lose faith in him.” > > > I am amazed at your narrative building skills!!! I do not know who you are > and how much connected to APNIC community? You again make a unsubstantiated > allegation that Paul is trying to interfere with foreign rule of law!!! > Please share evidence of this? Has he written to Supreme Court or any other > constitutional Body? I don’t see it? Next you say he has lost faith of > large part of community?? Have you based this on any survey if yes then > share or a Poll again please share? > > Making wild baseless allegations seems to be your forte. For what reasons > I do not know? How come being from APNIC community you are so immersed in > AFRINIC affairs. Seems some connection?business interests? soured deal? > Will be interesting to find out!!! > > I suggest come with all your evidence to APNIC 54 in Singapore and level > the allegations to the APNIC community at large. I am sure if you say Paul > has lost faith of majority of APNIC community they will support you. I > will be there. > > Perhar > > On 22-Aug-2022, at 3:47 PM, pure kair <[email protected]> wrote: > > I am glad you asked. > > The original letter of Eddy’s attempt to appoint a director though ATU can be > found > here:https://www.nrs.help/post/exposed-suspended-ceo-in-secret-appeal-calling-for-atu-interference > > I am part of the APNIC community, and I believe the fact that Paul is trying > to interfere with the foreign rule of law has let a large part of the > community lose faith in him. > > And to the best of my knowledge, the EC of APNIC has not read the letter to > the Mauritius government nor approved the letter before its sending. > > > Any EC member can speak out if that is not the case. > > > On Mon, 22 Aug 2022 at 17:51, Col R S Perhar <[email protected]> wrote: > >> You mention that this is an attempt by suspended CEO to get his Director >> appointed through ATU? >> Any evidence avaiable? Or is it allegations or conjecture? Or hearsay? >> >> For important/ specialized posts involving many countries, >> recommendations of names from recogonised bodies as a means of giving >> options with details to the court is normal practice. The court is free to >> decide. So what's wrong with that? >> >> Now coming to more allegations-: >> Paul is trying to fool the community? How? >> I am a bottom up community member. I dont find anything in Paul's mail >> fooling? >> APNIC community and others at large have put faith in him that's why he >> is DG of APNIC. How can you question the APNIC Community and The EC of not >> doing their due diligence? >> I think your problem lies elsewhere. Unsubstantiated allegations and wild >> statements are being bandied about as a smokescreen. >> >> Perhar >> >> On Mon, 22 Aug 2022, 14:29 pure kair, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Dear Paul >>> >>> "As the court is entirely free to accept or reject any of these >>> candidates, this does not in any way represent an appointment BY the ATU. " >>> >>> >>> THIS IS ATTEMPT BY SUSPENDED CEO OF RIR TO APPOINT DIRECTOR BY ATU TO >>> GET BACK HIS PERSONAL POWER. >>> >>> >>> As such power lie on the court to make the final decision does not in >>> any way deny the fact of the suspended CEO of RIR trying to appoint >>> director through ATU. >>> >>> >>> Paul, please do not mislead the community and take the community as >>> fools. >>> >>> >>> I am a community driven bottom up guy, for me, if you want to go down >>> that route, you may as well resign and serve the governmental bodies. Don't >>> try to turn APNIC into one. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 18 Aug 2022 at 14:07, Paul Wilson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear friends and colleagues, >>>> >>>> I do understand the interest by members of the APNIC community in the >>>> letter from the NRO to the government of Mauritius, dated on 12 July. >>>> Accordingly, I provided background and explanation of this action in an >>>> APNIC blogpost on 22 July: >>>> >>>> https://blog.apnic.net/2022/07/22/why-the-nro-is-defending-afrinic/ >>>> >>>> As explained in this blogpost, the primary reason for the NRO’s >>>> correspondence was to highlight the risks to the global Internet operations >>>> from unintended consequences of decisions made by the Mauritian courts, in >>>> the course of recent legal proceedings. The letter was a product of the NRO >>>> and it expressed the NRO’s commonly held concerns about the potential for >>>> serious damage to important Internet operations, a matter which is of >>>> common concern to all RIRs and, we believe, of great importance to all RIR >>>> communities. >>>> >>>> A secondary reason for the correspondence was to express support for >>>> AFRINIC’s previous requests to Mauritius for recognition of its status as >>>> an international organisation. Whether such recognition is granted and what >>>> this process entails under Mauritian law, are matters for the discretion of >>>> the Mauritian Government and for AFRINIC. However it should be noted that >>>> LACNIC has held a similar status for many years in its host country of >>>> Uruguay, as one of numerous organisations in the same category. >>>> >>>> Finally, regarding the process for AFRINIC Board appointments, which >>>> were not mentioned in the NRO letter or my blog post: my understanding is >>>> that if ANY Mauritian company becomes unable to complete its usual board >>>> appointment or election process, the Mauritian courts have discretion to >>>> appoint board members in order to allow the company to function. >>>> >>>> In AFRINIC’s case, the court was provided with a list of suggested >>>> candidate names, which had been solicited from the ATU (African >>>> Telecommunications Union) as a recognised independent and authoritative >>>> body, and along with other names from other sources (to my understanding). >>>> As the court is entirely free to accept or reject any of these candidates, >>>> this does not in any way represent an appointment BY the ATU. Under the >>>> current circumstances this appears to be an entirely legitimate process to >>>> enable the AFRINIC board to function and convene elections in accordance >>>> with their by-laws. >>>> >>>> I hope that these answers are useful and informative to interested >>>> parties. >>>> >>>> Paul. >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC [email protected] >>>> http://www.apnic.net @apnicdg >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> apnic-talk - https://mailman.apnic.net/[email protected]/ >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> apnic-talk - https://mailman.apnic.net/[email protected]/ >>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> >> >
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