I don't believe it's appropriate for an organisation involved in litigation 
with an RIR from a different service region, to come into a discussion about 
proposed by-law amendments in another (especially when one of the proposals 
sets a restriction of preventing an organisation in current litigation with 
APNIC from joining the EC and subsequently becoming a director).

The "advises and constructive feedbacks" offered I believe is not genuine for 
the reasons I've previously mentioned. Even if it was and I was brushing it 
off, this does not constitute a personal attack. IP resources need not have 
once belonged to someone for the current holder to be called out for 
exploitation of those resources. Cloud Innovation and LARUS obtained these 
resources, with the sole intention of using them (and currently using them), 
outside of the AFRINIC service region. This is demonstrable through route views 
into resources held by Cloud Innovation. It's clear Cloud Innovation had and 
has no intention of using them within the AFRINIC service region.

While Cloud Innovation's current litigation with AFRINIC did indeed take place 
outside of the APNIC service region, the litigation nonetheless is against an 
RIR that in essence performs the same functions as APNIC. So it is indeed very 
relevant.

Regards,
Christopher H.
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From: Hubert <h....@larus.net>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 11:09 PM
To: apnic-talk@lists.apnic.net <apnic-talk@lists.apnic.net>
Subject: [apnic-talk] Re: Feedback on APNIC proposed By-law reforms

Dear Mr. Hawker,

With all due respect you have let your ego gets in the way and digressed way 
too far from our original topic, the goal that we strive to achieve here is to 
make known to you all, higher up on the pedestal, what change does the member 
truly yearn for in the community, in hoping that the EC could listen to us 
better in addressing concerns we always have.

However, looking at the series of personal attacks you launched at us by 
brushing off our genuine advises and constructive feedbacks and even went as 
far as calling us out for exploiting resources that never once belonged to you 
in the first place? Who are you to be policing our actions when the matter 
happened outside of APNIC region and still pending final determination of the 
apex court of the Mauritius?

Regards,

Hubert
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