I believe the mailing list is intended for all community members to raise 
questions and engage in discussions.
Yes, it is. When they are meaningful questions and discussions.
Yes, I have a different perspective from Karl, and my intention is to 
contribute to the improvement of the internet governance structure by 
expressing my views and questioning APNIC. Is there something wrong with that?
There is nothing wrong with expressing views and asking the difficult 
questions. It's how people and organisations are kept honest. Having said that, 
it's the same rhetoric over and over again even though concerns are addressed.
Are you suggesting that we should not question the RIR structure?
See my point above.
Furthermore, I still don't understand why my question regarding the campaign 
was labeled as spam. I had a genuine inquiry, and seeking clarification is a 
natural response. What is the issue with that?
If it was a genuine query, you would have emailed the Secretariat or event 
organisers directly instead of a public mailing list.

Regards,
Christopher Hawker

________________________________
From: Dilip Kounmany <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 3:45 PM
To: Christopher Hawker <[email protected]>
Cc: Karl Kloppenborg <[email protected]>; apnic-talk 
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [apnic-talk] Re: Query Regarding "Catch me if you can" #SnapAndWin 
Amazon gift card Campaign

Hi Christopher,

I believe the mailing list is intended for all community members to raise 
questions and engage in discussions.

Yes, I have a different perspective from Karl, and my intention is to 
contribute to the improvement of the internet governance structure by 
expressing my views and questioning APNIC. Is there something wrong with that?

Are you suggesting that we should not question the RIR structure? Should all 
questions that do not align with the RIR's position be considered spam?

I would appreciate your guidance on this matter.

Furthermore, I still don't understand why my question regarding the campaign 
was labeled as spam. I had a genuine inquiry, and seeking clarification is a 
natural response. What is the issue with that?

Thank you for your advice.

Best regards,



On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 8:35 PM Christopher Hawker 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Dilip,

I think it's a bit of a stretch referring to Karl's emails as spamming. He has 
been one of the most vocal supporters defending the community whereas it seems 
yourself and others simply raise questions in an attempt to cast doubt over 
APNIC as a whole.

Questions such as asking about whether or not an NRS-branded vehicle being 
parked out the front of the hotel and photos being taken to win a $10 Amazon 
gift card is a part of the conference is sanctioned (when it's clearly not as 
it's not listed anywhere on the APNIC or APRICOT websites) is nothing short of 
spam.

Regards,
Christopher Hawker
________________________________
From: Dilip Kounmany <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 3:25 PM
To: Karl Kloppenborg 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: apnic-talk <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [apnic-talk] Re: Query Regarding "Catch me if you can" #SnapAndWin 
Amazon gift card Campaign

Hi Karl (I spelled it correctly this time),

Please carefully read my email. I am inquiring with APNIC to determine if the 
campaign in question is an official one. I want to clarify that I am not 
connected with NRS and do not possess any details regarding it. I apologize if 
this disappoints you.

Furthermore, if you claim that I am spamming for NRS, it is evident that you 
are also spamming for APNIC.

Let's strive to respect everyone's perspectives. I value your viewpoint as well.

Best regards,



On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 7:34 PM Karl Kloppenborg 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

APNIC,



Please moderate this clear spam, given Dilip’s history and that he could have 
just contacted “NRS” directly, this is clearly campaigning.



--Karl.



From: Dilip Kounmany <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Friday, 1 March 2024 at 10:01 am
To: apnic-talk <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [apnic-talk] Query Regarding "Catch me if you can" #SnapAndWin Amazon 
gift card Campaign

Hi



I hope this email finds you well. I recently came across a post on Twitter 
promoting the #SnapAndWin campaign with the hashtags #apricot2024.



The post encourages participants to snap a picture with a specified car, tweet 
it and win a $10 Amazon gift card USD.



I would like to inquire whether this campaign is an official Apricot 2024 event 
? Additionally, as I am attending the event online, I am interested in knowing 
if online participants can also join this campaign and be eligible for the 
mentioned rewards.



Your clarification on this matter would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for 
your time and assistance.



Best regards,
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