Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Friday 30 December 2005 08:50, Daisuke Kameda wrote: > >>So, in my personal opinion, I hope to cooperate with you about taking >>up the end users' proposal in various countries. I think that I try to >>carry out the activity which takes up the Japanese end users' proposal. > > > it would be interesting to have a Japanese perspective on things. Asian > involvement with open source (outside of using it) is abysmally low and > anything that can help that would be great.
I agree with you. There are many "only user" of OpenSource Software in Japan. However, in recently, the OpenSource products of Japanese origin have also increased. For example, Ruby, LKST (Linux Kernel System Tracer), Seasar (Java DI Container and other framework), etc. I have heard that users of Linux are increasing also in China or South Korea. I think that it is the timing that contribution to OpenSource Community will increase, from now on. The system to which a user's participation is promoted should promote that. >>In the concrete, I think that it is better to build Bug Tracking System >>for accepting the proposal (e.g. about usability) from end users. > > i have to admit that i'm not convinced that end users have the best ideas for > usability proposals because: > > - they lack expertise in the area and so end up suggesting things of low > value. it's not much different from asking them to design the data structures > of the program; if you don't have experience and expertise in the matter, > your input is often errant. > - they can't implement them so we end up with a large number of different > ideas (sometimes conflicting) but no actual implementations. I agree with your opinion partially. Probably, people who can do significant report and proposal are restricted. However, many of people who can't will not report primarily. > i do think that having user input in the form of usability testing, gathering > use cases and requirements (this is different than proposed solutions), etc > is very valuable. The purpose of my proposal is using a users' experience for the improvement of KDE. And it is desirable to be carried out as much as possible directly. I think that it is the better to prepare "having user input in the form of usability testing, gathering use cases and requirements" and praising contributed user. (I think it is more desirable, if we can aggregate information of use cases and requirements direct from user experience.) In generally, If there is only the system to report, there are many users who do not cooperate. So I proposed system that praise the user who would cooperate. >>And, >>it is desirable that they can submit by the native language as much as >>possible. > > > who would translate the native language messages so i and other developers > can > read them? this is the major problem here. You are right. It is a major problem. But, we will be able to do it, if there is Linux distributers' help. And, the same thing as India is not able to do in Japan. First of all, Linux distributers should have the information of report from many users. We can't aggregate the users' report, if there is not them help. On the contrary, if it can cooperate each other, there must be profits for each other. Regards, -- Daisuke Kameda mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Japan KDE Users' Group: President mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde.gr.jp/~daisuke/ immodule for Qt Project: Project Leader http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fimmodule_2dqt _______________________________________________ Appeal mailing list [email protected] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/appeal
