Well said. Couldn't agree more. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Szpunar Sent: 11 June 2009 15:33 To: Appigo Todo Subject: [appigo-todo] Re: Toodledo Crash
>From what I've read on their site, Toodledo does have an adequate backup strategy, although their restore one is slower than anticipated. It does sound like everything will be recovered, which means the backup strategy was good :-) I'm a paying customer too, but I also work in IT and I understand sometimes things happen you can't control. Even if they charged more money, and had a completely redundant infrastructure in mutliple datacenters, something like a DNS issue could affect the service accessibility across all that redundancy. Even Google has occasional outages and problems and they spend billions of dollars on their infrastructure. Heck Amazon.com's EC2 cloud was partially offline last night and this morning, too, and they spend billions on their infrastructure! For Toodledo to be recovering from this downtime in under 24 hours after something that is as catastrophic as this appears to be, and for this to be the only prolonged outage outside of a few minutes in the middle of the night since I started using the service last year...to me, I'm still getting my money's worth. It's not like you're locked in; you can make backups in multiple formats any time you want of your data to keep yourself, in addition to syncing with Appigo Todo, Toodledo's own iPhone app (both of which I use), or several others. I believe Jake (owner of Toodledo) is spending every moment getting things back online as fast as possible (working in IT, I understand that gigabytes of data takes a long time to transfer. That's just the way it works). That's all we can ask (in my opinion, you're free to disagree) for a service that is either free or a couple dollars per month, especially if no data is lost. As far as I know, no one's dying from the outage. We had storms in my town last night too, and a 10 year old boy who was out fishing with his dad died after being hit by lightening (they were getting back in the truck to go home when the storm started and he got hit, not still fishing). Toodledo is useful but it's not a be-all, end-all must-have system and if it was, someone should re-evaluate how much they can afford or not afford to spend on a critical system. Everything has risk, figure out how much you can accept, how much you're willing to pay to mitigate it...risk is always there, nothing's a sure thing, even if something is very unlikely. David Szpunar On Jun 11, 9:59 am, Arch <[email protected]> wrote: > I'd also like some sort of backup solution for ToDo. > > In particular, it would be great to have the option to replace the > "sync" button with an "export" button that would export the ToDo > database to an email address or webhost. This, with the addition of a > fix for recurring subtasks, would make a decent alternative. > > As a paying Toodledo customer, I'm pretty disappointed in their lack > of adequate backup strategy. > > On Jun 11, 9:03 am, Anna MacDonald <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Oh, I would definitely love a desktop app. But it would have to synch over > > the air. I don't have wifi, and backing up via plugging in to my PC takes so > > long that I rarely do it. The OTA synch was the main driver in my picking > > ToDo and Notebook. > > > Anna > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > > > Behalf Of Patrick Pope > > Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 8:32 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [appigo-todo] Re: Toodledo Crash > > > +1. I'd simply love a ToDo desktop app. for a PC - and would happily > > +pay up > > to $20 for it. > > > P. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > > Behalf Of Bobbd > > Sent: 11 June 2009 11:27 > > To: Appigo Todo > > Subject: [appigo-todo] Toodledo Crash > > > From the Toodledo Web site: > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > > --------------- > > So, here's the story. A big storm went through the city where our datacenter > > is located. The datacenter decided to proactively switch to generators. > > During the switch, something got screwed up, and the power went off for a > > few minutes. As (bad) luck would have it, this caused our database to get > > corrupted. We are currently working to bring it back online and restored > > from the live backup. The crack team at Rackspace is on the job. Thanks > > Rackspace! Unfortunately, the database is so large, that it will take some > > time to transfer and verify all the data. Hopefuly not more than a few > > hours. We know that this is very bad, and we apologize for any inconvience > > that this will cause. > > Please check the forums when we are back online for a full report. > > > Update: Its obviously taking longer than we expected and we are really sorry > > for that. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > > ---------------- > > > Call me old-fashioned, but this is why I still don't trust "cloud computing" > > or backups to the Web. Never mind the security issues if I had anything > > sensitive. I prefer to be in control of my backups. > > > And since I have my iPhone, I have my to do list everywhere. I just use > > Toodledo for backups. > > > Appigo - please give us a Todo desktop on PC and Mac. Or even the ability to > > backup the Todo database to a local WebDAV server. It doesn't even have to > > sync. That file could easily be copied to a second offsite backup. > > > How many out there agree that this is a priority. > > > Bob --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Learn more about Todo, Notebook (notes available everywhere), and AccuFuel (fuel efficiency tracker) on Appigo's website: http://www.appigo.com/ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Appigo Todo" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/appigo-todo?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
