Andrew Landers has done work with hollow cone nozzles and I am copying him on this reply in case he would like to provide information to this list-serve group.

As a plant pathologist, my perspective is that "identifying a more accurate measure of minimum dose requirements for individual orchards" is about as likely as finding a pot of gold at the end of the next rainbow. If everyone had identical size trees, pruned them the same way, and only sprayed when wind speeds were 2-3 mph from the NW, then we might have a chance of figuring out the optimal nozzling pattern, travel speed, chemical dosage, etc. Because we can't take all of those variables out of play, we probably will continue to over-spray just so that we get minimal-level coverage when spraying under adverse conditions (e.g., wind, dense canopy, clustered fruit). That's not to say that we can't make improvements in sprayer design, calibration, and nozzle selection. It's just that "minimum dose" is very difficult to define for any given orchard and/or spray condition.

In northeastern United States, we used the SI fungicides for many years as a "back-stop" for some IPM methods that provided good, but not always perfect, scab control. One could risk a "minimum dose" of captan or mancozeb in early-season sprays because the SI fungicides applied at petal fall and first cover would arrest any scab that might escape the early sprays. Now many orchards have SI-resistant apple scab and there is no fall-back position for arresting scab development if the disease becomes established early in the season. As a result, growers with SI-resistant scab are almost forced to over-spray as an insurance policy against scab. A sprayer perfectly-calibrated to deliver a minimum dose under ideal conditions could fail miserable if a scab fungicide is essential during a 4-day period when wind speeds never drop below 15 mph. Even Andrew Landers hasn't figured out how to engineer the weather!

Con
We have been using this technology for years as a flat fan for herbicide application. The results have been very good, drift greatly reduced and pressures reduced. This past season we started using them on our air blast sprayer to a limited degree. Thus far, they may be reducing drift, though it is less obvious. If I remember correctly,Andrew Landers of Cornell has been promoting the use of these nozzles as a way of reducing drift without compromising coverage. Maybe someone could forward the question on to him. You might want to try substituting a couple of nozzles on a side at a time, and watch results. Water sensitive cards are a good way to observe results. It seems as though we have focused on many other tactics for reducing pesticide usage over the past several years, but are for the most part using 50+ year old technology. I'd like to see some work looking at the use of this nozzle technology at lower pressures, ie, under 100psi and some work identifying a more accurate measure of minimum dose requirements for individual orchards, and economical means of adjusting/controlling our sprayers to deliver that dose. This should not be rocket science, but methods that are transferable to our operations at reasonable costs.

Mo Tougas
Tougas Family Farm
Northborough,MA

On Feb 20, 2007, at 9:10 AM, Con.Traas wrote:

Hello all,
I am considering trying the new drift-reducing Albuz hollow cone nozzles (see <http://www.albuz.saint-gobain.com/anglais/nouveautes.asp>http://www.albuz.saint-gobain.com/anglais/nouveautes.asp), which are supposed to give far bigger droplet sizes (apparently each drop is made up of many mini-drops mixed with air bubbles), which break up into optimal size droplets on impact with plant foliage. Have any of you used this type of technology for fungicides (or insecticides) and what do you think of it?

Con Traas
The Apple Farm
Moorstown
Cahir
Co. Tipperary
Ireland


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