I'd sure like to try it in a high-heat, low-chill climate; Fuji excells here and I wonder if that parent imparts some of these qualities to allow a Honeycrisp cross to be more productive here.
Kevin Hauser Riverside, California On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 02:17:07 +0000 (GMT), [email protected] wrote: > "..wonder if EverCrisp will do well in our elevation." > > what is your elevation? - do you keep track of growing degree days? > > adaptation for climate is unknown - I do know the fruitlets will not stand > 23*F two weeks after full bloom, however nothing else did either - > > in each of the last three years, king bloom has opened on the same day as > Golden Delicious, a considerable improvement over Fuji for our > purposes/climate - > > the tree is well spurred, branching occurs at right angles, and has a > spreading 'weakly dominate' form - it is precocious and I worry about fruit > in the second leaf runting these early plantings as the majority of the > trees going out the next two years are on Bud 9 - the mother seedling is > only 10' tall and the fruit keeps bending new growth over - > > I'll see if I can post a couple of pictures - it's worth noting that in > the second picture 40 apples had been removed for maturity analysis - > > > > > > > On Nov 09, 2012, at 10:29 AM, BonnieandJerry Moore <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Here in Washington state, the Honeycrisp is the 'apple from hell' to grow, > but the prices are excellent. It is prone to mildew, splitting at the top > and bitter pit. The short stems have to be cut, not picked, which requires > two hands for each apple to harvest. > The new EverCrisp has eliminated many of those problems. We have several > acres ready to plant something and haven't decided yet what, and wonder if > Evercrisp will do well in our elevation. > > Jerry Moore > Moore & Moore Apples > > To: [email protected] > From: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 04:07:59 +0000 > Subject: Re: [apple-crop] EverCrisp > > "We already have enough." "why not concentrate on raising good quality > apples from the ones we have now?" > > We have a lot of 19th and 20th century varieties - - HoneyCrisp has reset > the bar, but is poorly adapted to my climate and from talking to growers > and reading the trade papers, generally growers seem to struggle with it - > twice the price and half the pack-out is less than a net wash - > > If EverCrisp were 'just another variety', you'd have a point - it's not - > it's a genuine 21st century variety - > > EverCrisp will provide high brix and '21st century crunch' after being > abused (set out at room temperature for extended periods) by the purchaser > (and/or retailers) - Danno Simmons (originator of the EverCrisp name) made > a comment after tasting a specimen 11 weeks after harvest that had never > been refrigerated, saying 'it just might be Walmart proof'... > > "will it sell?" > > it'll sell - retail, I have no doubts, I am a 5th generation apple grower > who goes face to face with my retail and farmer's market customers from > August 1 thru Christmas - this is what the large majority ask for (sweet > and crispy and stays that way, and by sweet I mean 16-18brix, a sugar bomb) > I can't get these trees in production quickly enough - - it could and > should be wholesale worthy, obviously it's a tough road to gain shelf > space, but the (mainly) Ohio growers have about 100 acres of trees ordered > (literally every bud of scionwood worth) so there should be enough > production to do something with and Bill Dodd at Ohio Apple is in a > position to promote it - we'll see - > > "can you grow it everywhere?" > > dunno - it's likely too long a season for Minnesota and Maine - it grows > very nicely here @ 40* of latitude - it is available for the last three > weekends in October at this location - it hangs and waits on you to get to > it at your convenience - one picking will get it - > > if you're getting it done with Reds and Goldens and Idared, keep on - if > you want to follow the HoneyCrisp frenzy with something that that's better > for both the grower and consumer, you'd do well to consider EverCrisp - > > D > > On Nov 08, 2012, at 03:41 PM, Tommy and Sandy <[email protected]> wrote: > > Exactly what we need a new apple variety. We already have enough. We > don't know what to plant for our area, will it sell, can you grow it > everywhere. > We have a lot of good apples now, why not concentrate on raising good > quality apples from the ones we have now. > > Tommy Bruguiere > Dickie Bros. Orchards > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [email protected] > To: Apple-Crop > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 10:49 AM > Subject: [apple-crop] EverCrisp > > A new apple available to everyone - the first story about it is in this > month's Fruit Growers News - > > http://fruitgrowersnews.com/index.php/news/release/19002 > > It's excellent - > > David Doud > grower - Indiana > > > _______________________________________________ > apple-crop mailing list > [email protected] > http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop > > _______________________________________________ > apple-crop mailing list > [email protected] > http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop > > _______________________________________________ apple-crop mailing list > [email protected] > http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop > _______________________________________________ > apple-crop mailing list > [email protected] > http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop _______________________________________________ apple-crop mailing list [email protected] http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop
