Up here in the Northland (Nova Scotia)
most of the interstem plantings fell into the "Gee that sounded like a good 
idea, now how long can I bear to look at this mess before I pull it out?"
The root suckers were phenomenal on the M9/MM111's to the point where they grew 
faster than you could cut them. And next year a fresh batch arose from the 
stubs. Free standing trees are way overrated anyway. The labour to cut suckers 
and deal with trees with weak tops is soon equal to the cost of a trellis 
anyway! But to each his own.
As far a relying on renewal pruning with no permanent branches in Honeycrisp - 
you better have a very strong under stock. We can't do it with m26 here because 
Honeycrisp just will not throw a lot of new branches once it begins to fruit. 
We do a lot more spur pruning than renewal pruning on bearing Honeycrisp. Big 
cuts seldom produce the desired results for us, but we are a low vigour area.
Regards,
Larry Lutz

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On 2013-11-22, at 5:06 PM, "Jill Kelly" <kelly...@metrocast.net> wrote:

> Interstems do make for a more expensive tree.  Wasn't the thinking always to 
> use interstems for a free standing, supported early years, well anchored but 
> smaller tree?
> On Nov 22, 2013, at 1:23 PM, Hugh Thomas wrote:
> 
>> Steven,
>> Sorry for my ignorance, but why use interstems? 
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 5:55 AM, Steven Bibula <sbib...@maine.rr.com> wrote:
>>> I am sorry for not being clearer in my initial post.  My main question is 
>>> about Honeycrisp on various interstems managed with renewal pruning.  That 
>>> is, does anyone have experience with this.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Steven Bibula
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net 
>>> [mailto:apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] On Behalf Of Hugh Thomas
>>> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 12:52 AM
>>> To: Apple-crop discussion list
>>> Subject: Re: [apple-crop] honeycrisp management
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Rich,
>>> 
>>> I'm curious about your location and elevation.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 8:45 PM, Rich Everett <reofar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a couple acres of  honey crisp on different root stock and I'd tell 
>>> anyone that the tree is difficult to grow, susceptible to many diseases 
>>> from powdery mildew to pith and much more.  The apple taste great fresh, 
>>> we've juiced with the taste not very desirable for juice.  Again, the 
>>> toughest apple tree for us to grow and we have 15 varieties.  Good luck
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Nov 21, 2013, at 12:09 PM, Jill Kelly <kelly...@metrocast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I've got Honeycrisp on M26 at 5X15 Steve.  The 5 looks pretty good but the 
>>> 15 probably could had been 13.  Your welcome to come down to have a look 
>>> sometime.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Art Kelly
>>> 
>>> Kelly Orchards
>>> 
>>> Acton, Maine
>>> 
>>> On Nov 21, 2013, at 9:31 AM, Steven Bibula wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I plan to trial Honeycrisp on B.9/B.118, B.9/MM.111 and G.11/MM.111.  I 
>>> also plan to use renewal pruning, with no permanent limbs.  Considering Jon 
>>> Clements' recommendation for Honeycrisp on B.9 at 2 feet apart in the row, 
>>> any thoughts about spacing for these other combinations, or cautions?  My 
>>> thinking: If Honeycrisp on B.9 means waiting to crop until the third leaf, 
>>> maybe it is better to not rely heavily on Tall Spindle, but instead also go 
>>> with fewer trees on interstems (cheaper per acre) that will presumably last 
>>> longer, need less expensive support and still be trained to a compact, 
>>> U-Pick friendly fruiting wall.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Steven Bibula
>>> 
>>> Plowshares Community Farm
>>> 
>>> 236 Sebago Lake Road
>>> 
>>> Gorham ME 04038
>>> 
>>> 207.239.0442
>>> 
>>> www.plowsharesmaine.com
>>> 
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>>>  
>>> 
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