arachne-digest Friday, May 25 2001 Volume 01 : Number 1533 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 22:41:34 +0000 From: "Seek Hey - King of Padua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Seek-Hey - Help On Thu, 24 May 2001 14:15:02 -0500, L.D. Best turned his brain on and wrote: > Hold onto your hats, folks ... I don't want any coffee on keyboards and > monitors either, so put down what you are eating and drinking... > I agree 100% with greggy! I worked my way through from 1.60 to 1.70r3 > and the "stable version" I have kept for the kids to use is the same one > he prefers ... > On Thu, 24 May 2001 03:12:17 -0700, Gregory J. Feig wrote: >> NO..!!!...don't give him 1.69...that has the "Your Browser sent this >> Server a message this server did not understand" bug. >> 1.67 and 1.68 both had the "MemoryMonster" bug, baaaaddd...!!! >> About the best, most recent version is the 1.66...it is very stable, >> and has most of the bells and whistles... > For anyone looking to a stable, manageable, version of of Arachne, I > also would recommend 1.66 ... with one adendum: I would suggest > that the version of InSight which comes with 1.70r3 [and earlier?] be > substituted for the version which came in 1.66 originally. Doing that > seems to totally cure the 'lost chains' problem that was around for so > long. > Now, if I recall correctly, there was a change in mime.cfg structure > between 1.59 and the 1.60+ versions; if this is the case, that would > mean that Seek couldn't use the current mime.cfg file, but he should be > able to use the current Arachne.cfg file ... correct? Any bells and > whistles added between 1.59 & 1.66 could then be entered into > Arachne.cfg via Options?? > ***** > Seek ... I know you said you'd try the e-mail route; that may not work > for you, if your ISP has limits on the size of e-mail. Once 600K is > UUEncoded it takes up a LOT of space. And I don't think archive > versions are available that way either. :< > But you still have options ... once we figure out what you need, we can > put small files up for downloads "in pieces" or can attach files to > messages that won't run over a Mbyte in length. <G> Don't give up ... > we're very talented in this group [even though it doesn't show at > times]. > l.d. > -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ // //"I said I'd give my life for just one kiss.. // I live for your smile, and i'll die for your kiss!" // ---This PC is 100% Microsoft free --- // Ciaooooo, Alla prox by Federico Cc (Seek Hey) - -- Arachne V1.50;s.r.c., NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://home.arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 15:40:52 -0400 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Down with windows On Thu, 24 May 2001 10:30:32 +0000, Ron Clarke wrote: > Hi Folks, > Glenn McCorkle wrote: >> Hey, we just might start a new trend here. >> What do you think about an "Arachne users photo gallery"? :-) > Well, I am on my music homepage, as listed in my sig. Photo was this > year. > And why not a gallery ? Who wants to host it ? How's this as a "prototype" ? http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/ar-gal.htm BTW, Your server is sending GIFs as "content-type text/plain" - -- Glenn http://arachne.cz/ http://freedos-32.sourceforge.net/ http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/ http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/download.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 19:55:53 From: "Luis A. Loeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Help the kid out! > From: "Seek Hey - King of Padua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Organization: Arachne Fan Club > Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 22:40:33 +0000 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Help the kid out! > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Wed, 23 May 2001 20:13:47 +0000, Mel Evans, Registered Arachne User turned his >brain on and wrote: > > > Hi Gangue, > > and King of Padua. Can your machine handle 1.44 floppies? If it can, let > > me have your ordinary mail address and I could post you a 1.44 disc with > > the latest arachne on it if you can't get it any other way. Hi Fede I wonder how could Microsoft detect that you were using an ilegal copy of W95. This should send shivers ? through everybody using ilegal copies of OS. Here in Brazil piracy is so widespread that I can find in downtown Sao Paulo copies of W95, W98, WNT4, W2000, Wme, Wxp or whatever for U$ 4.00 each CD. Regards Luis A. Loeff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 19:55:53 From: "Luis A. Loeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Help the kid out! > From: "Seek Hey - King of Padua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Organization: Arachne Fan Club > Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 22:40:33 +0000 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Help the kid out! > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Wed, 23 May 2001 20:13:47 +0000, Mel Evans, Registered Arachne User turned his >brain on and wrote: > > > Hi Gangue, > > and King of Padua. Can your machine handle 1.44 floppies? If it can, let > > me have your ordinary mail address and I could post you a 1.44 disc with > > the latest arachne on it if you can't get it any other way. Hi Fede I wonder how could Microsoft detect that you were using an ilegal copy of W95. This should send shivers ? through everybody using ilegal copies of OS. Here in Brazil piracy is so widespread that I can find in downtown Sao Paulo copies of W95, W98, WNT4, W2000, Wme, Wxp or whatever for U$ 4.00 each CD. Regards Luis A. Loeff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 19:55:53 From: "Luis A. Loeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Help the kid out! > From: "Seek Hey - King of Padua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Organization: Arachne Fan Club > Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 22:40:33 +0000 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Help the kid out! > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Wed, 23 May 2001 20:13:47 +0000, Mel Evans, Registered Arachne User turned his >brain on and wrote: > > > Hi Gangue, > > and King of Padua. Can your machine handle 1.44 floppies? If it can, let > > me have your ordinary mail address and I could post you a 1.44 disc with > > the latest arachne on it if you can't get it any other way. Hi Fede I wonder how could Microsoft detect that you were using an ilegal copy of W95. This should send shivers ? through everybody using ilegal copies of OS. Here in Brazil piracy is so widespread that I can find in downtown Sao Paulo copies of W95, W98, WNT4, W2000, Wme, Wxp or whatever for U$ 4.00 each CD. Regards Luis A. Loeff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 19:55:53 From: "Luis A. Loeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Help the kid out! > From: "Seek Hey - King of Padua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Organization: Arachne Fan Club > Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 22:40:33 +0000 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Help the kid out! > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Wed, 23 May 2001 20:13:47 +0000, Mel Evans, Registered Arachne User turned his >brain on and wrote: > > > Hi Gangue, > > and King of Padua. Can your machine handle 1.44 floppies? If it can, let > > me have your ordinary mail address and I could post you a 1.44 disc with > > the latest arachne on it if you can't get it any other way. Hi Fede I wonder how could Microsoft detect that you were using an ilegal copy of W95. This should send shivers ? through everybody using ilegal copies of OS. Here in Brazil piracy is so widespread that I can find in downtown Sao Paulo copies of W95, W98, WNT4, W2000, Wme, Wxp or whatever for U$ 4.00 each CD. Regards Luis A. Loeff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 19:55:53 From: "Luis A. Loeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Help the kid out! > From: "Seek Hey - King of Padua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Organization: Arachne Fan Club > Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 22:40:33 +0000 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Help the kid out! > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Wed, 23 May 2001 20:13:47 +0000, Mel Evans, Registered Arachne User turned his >brain on and wrote: > > > Hi Gangue, > > and King of Padua. Can your machine handle 1.44 floppies? If it can, let > > me have your ordinary mail address and I could post you a 1.44 disc with > > the latest arachne on it if you can't get it any other way. Hi Fede I wonder how could Microsoft detect that you were using an ilegal copy of W95. This should send shivers ? through everybody using ilegal copies of OS. Here in Brazil piracy is so widespread that I can find in downtown Sao Paulo copies of W95, W98, WNT4, W2000, Wme, Wxp or whatever for U$ 4.00 each CD. Regards Luis A. Loeff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 19:55:53 From: "Luis A. Loeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Help the kid out! > From: "Seek Hey - King of Padua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Organization: Arachne Fan Club > Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 22:40:33 +0000 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Help the kid out! > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Wed, 23 May 2001 20:13:47 +0000, Mel Evans, Registered Arachne User turned his >brain on and wrote: > > > Hi Gangue, > > and King of Padua. Can your machine handle 1.44 floppies? If it can, let > > me have your ordinary mail address and I could post you a 1.44 disc with > > the latest arachne on it if you can't get it any other way. Hi Fede I wonder how could Microsoft detect that you were using an ilegal copy of W95. This should send shivers ? through everybody using ilegal copies of OS. Here in Brazil piracy is so widespread that I can find in downtown Sao Paulo copies of W95, W98, WNT4, W2000, Wme, Wxp or whatever for U$ 4.00 each CD. Regards Luis A. Loeff ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 15:10:11 -0700 From: "Thomas Tabler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: using capital "P" for successful Internet PPP connection Dear List and/or Gregy: Yes, I noticed this effect of my ISP too. I first found it hard to login with it until I discovered that simply adding a capital "P" at the end of the username string. This is the reverse of Gregy's ISP which requires it to proceed the username field. Why it is this From: "Thomas Tabler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: Personal Use Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 19:45:24 -0700 X-Mailer: Arachne V1.65 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Arachne development and Netscape-like features MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charsetContent-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Dear Gregy: I appreciate your openness and experience with these matters. I did not know that you installed software for a living {or do you manage software needs for dialups?}. I found that my brother-in-law had similiar problems with his ISP, so after some hard attempts by him and me to use the "earlier" {that is Arachne versions up to 1.66} packages, he just gave up and said it wasn't worth the expend- iture of time. I told him that Arachne could still work, but it requires special drivers and a seperate dialer package. I still have no time to attempt a connection using Surfbest. I don't have any time to go up there and I would have to get another ISP account to even try it out. It will probably fall by the wayside for quite a while. He eventually decided to use the Win 32 version of Opera and was quite pleased with it, although he still hasn't registered. I agree with you that for Arachne to be competitive with Netscape it must have 'Netscape-like' features, while avoiding the bloat. It already has some, but that is not the problem. In the main, it does not have openSSL encryption, nor does it have a wide range of ISP's it can use. I mean, ISPs that will probably be in business after 2 years. We have seen a lot of ISPs come and go and all the work on establishing connections based on them is moot now. They are out of business. I am going to make an effort to try to setup the SSHDOS APM client package to use with Arachne, but I don't know how sucessful it will be. And right now I must work on other things. Glenn M. on the List claims all the APM's work just fine. I question his reasoning as the average user just can't understand and implement OOK files and the necessary add-on installations easily. Maybe SSH-dos client can be more easily set up as a seperate SECURE browser client {outside of Arachne directory}. I just don't know yet. Also, I wonder if some features of secure technology don't require a lot of RAM. I think probably, YES. That is why I don't like over- committing myself to a definite timetable. Yours, Thomas Tabler - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne browser, WWW Web browser for DOS-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 10:55:20 -0700 From: "Thomas Tabler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: temperamental DOSLynx 386 browser on Mindspring site Dear List: This stuff about 'secure' plug-ins for Arachne is good. I tried to use the Dos Lynx386 browser to accesse and had some success the first go round. But later I had more problems. An error page said no HTML page was returned. Those at Earthlink are freezing out us DOS users by preferring Windows browsers. However, I will try again to use Lynx from time to time. I wonder what the results will be. My version of Lynx has the OpenSSL code hard-wired into it. And this is the result of a preference, it appears, for Windows 95 with Earthlink technical support team. I have not looked into alternate "schemes" to get HTTPS access. If the secure server requires HTML, then how can plain- text DOS browsers compete? Yours, Thomas Tabler - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne browser, WWW Web browser for DOS-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 09:50:03 +0000 From: "Ron Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Seek-Hey - Help Hi Folks, Seek-Hey, L.D. Best wrote: > For anyone looking to a stable, manageable, version of of Arachne, I > also would recommend 1.66 ... with one adendum: I would suggest > that the version of InSight which comes with 1.70r3 [and earlier?] be > substituted for the version which came in 1.66 originally. Doing that > seems to totally cure the 'lost chains' problem that was around for so > long. I would agree with L.D. I have installed and run almost every version of Arachne since 1.1. Although I do have 1.70r3 installed, I hardly ever use it. I find it unstable, sadly. My "workhorse" browser is Arachne 1.66, with its original version of Insight. In spite of Bernie's misgivings, this Insight has worked just fine. The only time I use another DOS email client is when my regular ISP goes down and I have to use my secondary ISP which really doesn't get along with Insight and Arachne. Regards, Ron Ron Clarke http://homepages.valylink.net.au/~ausreg/music.html - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Versatile Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 08:50:37 +0000 From: "Ron Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: I'd like to say something nice Hi Folks, Sam, Sam Ewalt wrote: > Unfortunately, Win3.1 is even deader than DOS and I can't imagine anyone > bothering to write Win3.1 specific drivers as the entire Windows > contingent has long since migrated onward and upward. There are some relatively recent bits and pieces for Win 3.1, and there is still stuff being written. Remember, DOS stuff "usually" runs under Win 3.1. > Isn't there a capable DOS graphics program? What's it called > Graphics Workshop for DOS, or something like that? > But maybe that doesn't have up-to-date video drivers anymore. Yes, that is what it is called. Still a pretty good program from Alchemy MindWorks. Shareware. I have it. :) Regards, Ron Ron Clarke http://homepages.valylink.net.au/~ausreg/music.html - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Versatile Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 09:40:41 +0000 From: "Ron Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Another very good reason to deltree windows Hi Folks, Glenn, On Thu, 24 May 2001 11:32:15 +0000, Ron Clarke wrote: > Sadly, I have to debug my daily mail download before I open any of > them. Anti-virus progs don't seem to be able to pick the virii while > they are still encoded for email transport. Anything suspicious, and I > look at the *.cnm file with a text editor first, before I open it, even > in Arachne. Yes, I know that most of them are 32bit-Windows-only virii, but > one can never be sure. > We live in a jungle. Glenn McCorkle wrote: > There is no need to do this when using Arachne. > Even if by some chance you get a Dos virus as an attachment. > Linking to the attached file *will not* run it. > The attached file will simply be saved to disk (in the directory of > your choosing, with the name of your choosing). > This makes it very easy to run a virus checker on just that one file. > The only possible way of being contaminated by simply "clicking" the > attachment is if you have uncommented this line in mime.cfg...... > ;file/.exe |@$1 You are perfectly correct, Glenn. But I enjoy being paranoid. :) And sometimes, when I am a little careless, pickled, or just showing off, I click more often than I should. So I am ultra-careful. My TEMP directory is on a ramdisk, I have kept .EXE and .COM inactivated in Arachne's MIME.CFG, I have F-PROT for DOS, and I am subscribed to VET for Win 3.1, and I keep spraying my machinery with antiseptic. Perhaps I should keep moth balls in with my floppy disks ? Regards, Ron (who is not always to be taken seriously) Ron Clarke http://homepages.valylink.net.au/~ausreg/music.html - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Versatile Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 21:49:10 -0400 From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: DOS Graphics Programs (was Re: I'd like Graphics programs for DOS: As already mentioned: GWSDOS ---> Graphics Workshop One that I really like: 2SHOW ----> CompuShow2000 from Canyon States Software I have NeoPaint, but I don't think that I have ever used it. Roger Turk Tucson Arizona ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 07:23:29 +0200 From: "Lars Wigrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: DOS Graphics Programs > Graphics programs for DOS: > One that I really like: 2SHOW ----> CompuShow2000 from Canyon States Software A good choice, except for that it includes the notorius Runtime Error 200 bug, and the programmer doesn't seem to be interested in fixing it. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 02:19:42 -0400 (EDT) From: "Thomas Mueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Down with windows << if download fails perhaps You should try the "receive Arachne per e-mail" option at download page. Regards Joerg >> If you have WWW access, downloading Arachne by http is actually less of a download than receiving by e-mail. Uuencode or base64 multiplies file size by 4/3, as 4 bytes encoded take the place of 3 bytes original. I've been successful downloading Arachne with DOS Lynx386. Thanks to L.D. Best for tips on escaping the endless download. I wonder what, if anything, was really being downloaded. On accessing Usenet through Google, might Arachne also be able to access Usenet through MailAndNews (http://MailAndNews.com , requires registration)? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 10:15:15 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Down with windows >Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 11:12:16 +0200 >From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Down with windows > >I use Eudora since the mailing portion IMHO in Arachne is very bad. Michael >has also stopped using Arachne for mail. Well to tell the truth I only used >Arachne for mail for a few days, but the HD use and slowness in operating >it forced me back to Eudora. Someday I might try some other DOS >mailprogram, but there are many other things I need to program before I can >have time to install a new mail program. >//Bernie Hi list and King of Padova, Arachne does an excellent job with all online activities. But for reading and composing of messages the graphical interface is unnecessary and too slow as well. If you can afford to read your mail online and call inserted links it makes sense to use Arachne (if you connect with a modem this will be rather expensive). If you do 'real' work with email, you might consider So you may consider another way. Let Arachne upload and download your messages, but edit, sort, compose, and archive them with another program. All you have to care for is that the files to be sent (.TBS) match the format known to Arachne. I consider Pegasus Mail for DOS (PMail) to be the best email client for DOS. It offers such a rich possibility of customizing (codepage conversion, menu, mime plug-ins, adapting the message formats and file names). It is able to sort a huge amount of incoming mail according to addresses and subject lines. You can even run an unmoderated mailing list with this feature. PMail's flexibility makes it a very good complement to Arachne: Arachne does the online jobs POP3 and SMTP. Pegasus is quicker and more practical for offline reading, composing, sorting. If you like to setup PMail for use with Arachne and need any hints, please ask be free to ask Dale Mentzer or me (on this list or probably to private e- mail). BTW a further question: Arachne like every other browser will always need to have some kind of e-mail module. Otherwise she would not be able to proceed all those mailto-links. But would it not be possible to hand mailto-links over to another program, eg. PMail? Regards Christof Lange ________________________________________________________________ Ceskobratrska cirkev evangelicka - Betlemska kaple na Zizkove Prokopova 4/216, 130 00 Praha 3, Czech Republic Tel. (00420-2) 22 78 06 73 / 22 78 20 02 http://www.volny.cz/cce.zizkov ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 14:52:53 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: They are only ONE Hi list, I am just back from a visit at the new 'Arachne users photo gallery' and cannot hide my disappointment. I knew before that there are not many Arachne users. But the photo gallery recently published on Guenter's new website gave the proved: They are only ONE. In Arachne mailing list he uses a hundred different pseudonyms, but when you look at the real true photographs, you will discover that they all look the same. Have a look at the screen I shot: www.volny.cz/lange/gallery.zbm Regards, Christof Lange ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 09:20:48 From: "Luis A. Loeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Help the kid out! > Hi Fede > > I wonder how could Microsoft detect that you were using an ilegal copy > of W95. This should send shivers ? through everybody using ilegal > copies of OS. Here in Brazil piracy is so widespread that I can find in > downtown Sao Paulo copies of W95, W98, WNT4, W2000, Wme, Wxp or whatever > for U$ 4.00 each CD. > > Regards > > Luis A. Loeff > > > Hi Folks This sextuplication of messages requires an explanation and an apology. Actually I composed the message with Pegasus 3.50 and was sending it using Arachne 1.66. I actually intended to send it once but for some reason I can't explain I entered into a mode by which each time I clicked into the "previous page" (left) arrow, I sent a message, so I guess after seeing the problem I exited Arachne and entered again. Again I am sorry but it was not my fault, I probably still don;t know to handle Arachne properly. Regards Luis A. Loeff ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 10:21:14 -0400 From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: DOS Graphics Programs Lars Wigrell wrote: . > > Graphics programs for DOS: . > > One that I really like: 2SHOW ----> CompuShow2000 from Canyon States . > Software . > A good choice, except for that it includes the notorius Runtime Error 200 . > bug, and the programmer doesn't seem to be interested in fixing it. Lars, I don't think that I have ever run into the "notorious Runtime Error 200 bug." Could you expand on this? Roger Turk Tucson, Arizona ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 08:35:40 -0700 From: "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Seek help On Thu, 24 May 2001 14:15:02 -0500, L.D. Best wrote: > Hold onto your hats, folks ... I don't want any coffee on keyboards and > monitors either, so put down what you are eating and drinking... > I agree 100% with greggy! I worked my way through from 1.60 to 1.70r3 > and the "stable version" I have kept for the kids to use is the same one > he prefers ... l.d....eerrrm....you didn't give enough warning...I had a, ahh..accident ...<g g g> - ----------snip----------- > For anyone looking to a stable, manageable, version of of Arachne, I > also would recommend 1.66 ... with one adendum: I would suggest > that the version of InSight which comes with 1.70r3 [and earlier?] be > substituted for the version which came in 1.66 originally. Doing that > seems to totally cure the 'lost chains' problem that was around for so > long. yes...we can sort of "customize" an install, with "the-best-of-the-best" (pun definitely NOT intended...not even contemplated) for Seek... (..and..if you believe that....well...there's this bridge...<g g g>) - --------snip---------- > Now, if I recall correctly, there was a change in mime.cfg structure > between 1.59 and the 1.60+ versions; if this is the case, that would > mean that Seek couldn't use the current mime.cfg file, but he should be > able to use the current Arachne.cfg file ... correct? Any bells and > whistles added between 1.59 & 1.66 could then be entered into > Arachne.cfg via Options?? I think we can just use the .CFGs and .ACFs from 1.70r3, the 1.66 core.exe and etc should work okay with that. ...LATER..... In fact, upon more thought....we'll just use the 1.70r3 install, with the 1.66 core.exe substituted on that, plus substitute any of the other "choice" pieces of the earlier installs. - --------------snip------------- > But you still have options ... once we figure out what you need, we can > put small files up for downloads "in pieces" or can attach files to > messages that won't run over a Mbyte in length. <G> Don't give up ... > we're very talented in this group [even though it doesn't show at > times]. - -------------insert----------- 1. We can "zip" up the empty directory structure for Arachne using: .....X:\ARACHNE\xcopy *.zzz x:\arachne\dir\ /e /s 2. We can zip up the contents of each major directory..and/or group of directories. 3. We send Seek the zipped up empty directory structure. 4. We send Seek the individual zipped up packages.. ....NOTE - something along these lines will probably work best for him. BUT...he must understand that he MUST do this as an additional installation on his current working computer box. Totally as a separate installation, or we might end up breaking his working install. ...Since Seek was running Winzz, he undoubtably has a box with enough RAM and other resources to let him do multiple Arachne Installations.. - --------end ins---------- l.d., I think we got a "possible" here..........<g g g>...we can break it up into attachable size, and email it all to him in bits and pieces.. .........gregy PS....once we get him set up with that, we MIGHT try emailing him some of the .APMs, if we can come up with a working setup for him to install them manually from his local drive (or install them automagically from his local drive - something I haven't yet accomplished, and for which I am still irritated). - --This mail composed/sent with Arachne...the SUPERDuper Internet Client...<g g g> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 08:47:22 -0700 From: "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Individual Setups et al, Seek's query to Bernie about using Eudora... l.d.'s recent struggle to get her cable connection up an running... my recent struggle to get one (plus many additional) clients up and running on a recalcitant ISP... These all illustrate the diversity of software/hardware/connections we are dealing with. I don't know a simple (simplistic..?) answer to these things. BUT, I do know, that, while Winzz appears to be handling these all in its stride, this is NOT so...W9x is a very heavy cottage-industry for me, and could be very lucrative, if I wanted to exploit it. Winzzz (and other OSs) has probably as many problems as DOS/Arachne...it's just that there are more people working on them, so they get solved quicker...and...some things (e.g. multitasking) are IMPOSSIBLE in DOS... We should keep reminding ourselves of this...so we don't get frustrated with people struggling to fix something we can't even really understand, since WE don't have THAT problem...<g g g g> .....gregy - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 11:31:10 -0400 From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Seek help L.D. and Gregy, UUENCODE from Richard Marks (freeware) will automatically break large files up into 50K units, unless told not to do so using the option, -s. UUDECODE from same source will reassemble the file in the proper order. I can provide a ZIPped copy Richard Marks' freeware UU program. If it comes thru UUencoded, you should be able to decode it using the UUDECODE program that comes with Arachne. Roger Turk Tucson, Arizona Gregy wrote: - -------Begin quoted thread----------- On Thu, 24 May 2001 14:15:02 -0500, L.D. Best wrote: > Hold onto your hats, folks ... I don't want any coffee on keyboards and > monitors either, so put down what you are eating and drinking... > I agree 100% with greggy! I worked my way through from 1.60 to 1.70r3 > and the "stable version" I have kept for the kids to use is the same one > he prefers ... l.d....eerrrm....you didn't give enough warning...I had a, ahh..accident ...<g g g> - ----------snip----------- > For anyone looking to a stable, manageable, version of of Arachne, I > also would recommend 1.66 ... with one adendum: I would suggest > that the version of InSight which comes with 1.70r3 [and earlier?] be > substituted for the version which came in 1.66 originally. Doing that > seems to totally cure the 'lost chains' problem that was around for so > long. yes...we can sort of "customize" an install, with "the-best-of-the-best" (pun definitely NOT intended...not even contemplated) for Seek... (..and..if you believe that....well...there's this bridge...<g g g>) - --------snip---------- > Now, if I recall correctly, there was a change in mime.cfg structure > between 1.59 and the 1.60+ versions; if this is the case, that would > mean that Seek couldn't use the current mime.cfg file, but he should be > able to use the current Arachne.cfg file ... correct? Any bells and > whistles added between 1.59 & 1.66 could then be entered into > Arachne.cfg via Options?? I think we can just use the .CFGs and .ACFs from 1.70r3, the 1.66 core.exe and etc should work okay with that. ...LATER..... In fact, upon more thought....we'll just use the 1.70r3 install, with the 1.66 core.exe substituted on that, plus substitute any of the other "choice" pieces of the earlier installs. - --------------snip------------- > But you still have options ... once we figure out what you need, we can > put small files up for downloads "in pieces" or can attach files to > messages that won't run over a Mbyte in length. <G> Don't give up ... > we're very talented in this group [even though it doesn't show at > times]. - -------------insert----------- 1. We can "zip" up the empty directory structure for Arachne using: .....X:\ARACHNE\xcopy *.zzz x:\arachne\dir\ /e /s 2. We can zip up the contents of each major directory..and/or group of directories. 3. We send Seek the zipped up empty directory structure. 4. We send Seek the individual zipped up packages.. ....NOTE - something along these lines will probably work best for him. BUT...he must understand that he MUST do this as an additional installation on his current working computer box. Totally as a separate installation, or we might end up breaking his working install. ...Since Seek was running Winzz, he undoubtably has a box with enough RAM and other resources to let him do multiple Arachne Installations.. - --------end ins---------- l.d., I think we got a "possible" here..........<g g g>...we can break it up into attachable size, and email it all to him in bits and pieces.. .........gregy PS....once we get him set up with that, we MIGHT try emailing him some of the .APMs, if we can come up with a working setup for him to install them manually from his local drive (or install them automagically from his local drive - something I haven't yet accomplished, and for which I am still irritated). - ----------End quoted thread------------ ------------------------------ End of arachne-digest V1 #1533 ******************************
