arachne-digest Sunday, May 27 2001 Volume 01 : Number 1535 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 14:15:05 +0000 From: "Seek Hey - King of Padua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Help the kid out! On Fri, 25 May 2001 09:20:48, Luis A. Loeff turned his brain on and wrote: > Hi Folks > This sextuplication of messages requires an explanation and an apology. > Actually I composed the message with Pegasus 3.50 and was sending it using > Arachne 1.66. I actually intended to send it once but for some reason > I can't explain I entered into a mode by which each time I clicked into > the "previous page" (left) arrow, I sent a message, so I guess after > seeing the problem I exited Arachne and entered again. > Again I am sorry but it was not my fault, I probably still don;t know > to handle Arachne properly. No problem pal ;) Ciaoooooo!! Fede. // //"I said I'd give my life for just one kiss.. // I live for your smile, and i'll die for your kiss!" // ---This PC is 100% Microsoft free --- // Ciaooooo, Alla prox by Federico Cc (Seek Hey) - -- Arachne V1.50;s.r.c., NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://home.arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 14:15:26 +0000 From: "Seek Hey - King of Padua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Down with windows On Fri, 25 May 2001 23:34:20 -0400 (EDT), Thomas Mueller turned his brain on and wrote: > If you have DOS but no Windows, I don't think there is any Outlook or Eudora > that you can use. What version of DOS are you using with no more Windows? I didn't say to integrate arachne with outlook or eudora, but just to completely or partially redo the mailing portion of Arachne.. > Downloading at school and carrying on 1.44 MB diskette sounds like the best > idea. I suppose the school would have a high-speed connection. Writing to or > reading from 1.44 MB diskette is much faster than 56K modem. It was, anyway i received arachne byu email later.. Byeeee. Fede // //"I said I'd give my life for just one kiss.. // I live for your smile, and i'll die for your kiss!" // ---This PC is 100% Microsoft free --- // Ciaooooo, Alla prox by Federico Cc (Seek Hey) - -- Arachne V1.50;s.r.c., NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://home.arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 14:15:46 +0000 From: "Seek Hey - King of Padua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: piracy of Microsoft software and modem problems On Thu, 24 May 2001 18:04:03 -0700, Thomas Tabler turned his brain on and wrote: > I don't use Windows 95, or any version but 16-bit here in the U.S. > My sister ran W98 for awhile, but her computer crashed. She has been > using Arachne e-mail client/browser on my machine ever since. I want > to be on the side of the Law, too. If you cannot get easily a version > of Arachne browser from the Internet with your slow modem, I can e-mail > it to you. You can also get a copy from Michael P.'s website if you > send a blank e-mail with no subject line to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > .. This, of course, will be very latest version of browser that supports > CSS. I have several other versions of this browser package too. E-mail > me if you are interested. Thank you a lot, pal.. anyway I already resolved the problem, because Gregory sent me a copy of arachne. Thank you!! Byeee Fede // //"I said I'd give my life for just one kiss.. // I live for your smile, and i'll die for your kiss!" // ---This PC is 100% Microsoft free --- // Ciaooooo, Alla prox by Federico Cc (Seek Hey) - -- Arachne V1.50;s.r.c., NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://home.arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 09:06:24 -0700 From: "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Seek Help On Sat, 26 May 2001 14:14:15 +0000 Seek Hey - King of Padua wrote: - --------snip--------- > Sure, Greg! I just installed it (I had the same version on floppy, but > uudecoding yours would be quicker) and then installed and used it. It is > circa identical to this version.. only the fonts are bigger and there > are some more bugs.. anyway, i'll move into it on the next days. THANK > YOU VERY MUCH GREG!!! > Byeeeeee! Fede. Fede, Okay, now I will send you the CORE.EXE for Arachne versions 1.66 and 1.69. They will be renamed to CORE166.EXE and CORE169.EXE. You must copy your existing Arachne version 1.70r3 CORE.EXE to CORE170.EXE. Then you will have three CORE.EXE files, and you can manual copy any one of them over the CORE.EXE file in X:\ARACHNE\ directory, depending upon your needs. Or you can write a simple CSWAP.BAT with 166, 169, and 170 sections. ......gregy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 09:25:08 -0700 From: "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Seek Help Fede, ByeTheWay.....that ARCHN170.ZIP I sent you is NOT really a file with the extension .ZIP....it is really a file with an extension of .EXE....I only renamed it to be sure your ISP would let it go through. 1. You must first rename that file to ARCHN170.EXE...then 2. Run it (i.e type "archn170") from the ROOT of the drive you want to install it on (e.g. C:\>). 3. It is a self-extracting zip file which will extract/install itself. ........gregy - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 09:41:53 -0700 From: "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Fw: Seek Help - ----- Forwarded message begin ----- From: "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fede, Attached it the ACORES.ZIP file which includes the CORE166.EXE and the CORE169.EXE files. This is a REAL .zip file, and you must unzip it with PKUNZIP. .......gregy - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client [Attached file: acores.] - ------ Forwarded message end ------ - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 13:20:13 -0500 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Another page 'rachne can't handle I'm not certain whether the problem is the way the map is referenced [actually there are two "maps" on this page], whether it's the long lines of code necessitated by polygon coordinates [some over 300 characters long] or the fact that the map definitions are after the 'end of body' tag. If you go to the URL you'll see the page does load ... it's the links from the "map" that don't work ... even though Arachne picks up some of what it needs, the end result is an error message. http://www.intellicast.com/LocalWeather/World/UnitedStates/Radar/ l.d. - -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 19:5:40 +0800 From: "J. J. Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Seek Help Any fans left for 1.64? My tests at the time showed it to be a tad faster than 1.66 when coping with obese slashdot type pages. I can't remember what benefits the 1.66 - 1.69 series may have had. Somewhere along the line the JPEG-in-frame bug arrived, and still remains. Regards, Jake British ambassador to the kingdom of Padua Still wondering how the UK's largest ISP managed to bar Windows users for a week, but let `rachne slip through the net. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 19:58:48 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.31 On 26 May 01 at 14:03, owner-arachne-digest@arachne wrote: > Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 23:46:54 -0400 > From: "Clarence Verge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: They are only ONE > > On Fri, 25 May 2001 14:52:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > www.volny.cz/lange/gallery.zbm > > Hi Christof; > I'm afraid your zip has a non-recoverable error in it. > Please upload our picture again. I added www.volny.cz/lange/gallery.zip It seems to be identical. Regards Christof Lange ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 21:30:33 -000 From: Mike Millen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Internet morons force wake-up call CV>Hello All; Some totally amazing stuff is coming out of CV>various points in czland but web page design isn't part of CV>it. :(( CV>It's hard to believe that the wacko(s) who assembled the CV>collection are dumb enuff to think everyone has a T1 CV>connection, but it must be true - THEY PUT TWO HUNDRED & CV>FIFTY-SEVEN IMAGES ON THE PAGE !! Do you think they are the same mob that did the Arachne site for Michael? IMO it is one of the *worst* designed sites I have ever come across... the earlier version was *much* better. Arachne is great, but it's website is crap. ;) Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 17:09:20 -0400 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Runtime Error 200 On Fri, 25 May 2001 19:52:06 +0200, Lars Wigrell wrote: <snip> > What's "Google"? To me it sounds like something that you ate but didn't > like. "Google...<puke>" ;-) "Google" is a great search engine. :))) http://www.google.com/ - -- Glenn http://arachne.cz/ http://freedos-32.sourceforge.net/ http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/ http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/download.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 00:14:09 +0300 From: Cristian Burneci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Free DOS Multi-tasking Hi everyone! I've tried tu use the multitasking feature of DR-DOS, too. They specify in the doc (somewhere in the help file I believe) that it was impossible for two applications to share the same peripheral (say a COM port). In fact this is done by creating a virtual machine for each application, and in that case the program sees a virtual device not a real one. I tried to use DOSEMU under Linux. In fact DOSEMU provides such virtual stuff. Your favorite version of DOS will boot and run not on a plain PC, but on a DOSEMU machine. In fact, two or three DOSes will boot simultaneously if you want... Well, the emulation of a PC on a PC isn't perfect, but, at least, you have some real multitasking there. (And none of you mentioned Windows NT. And I'm not sure, but I believe Win9x acts pretty much the same with DOS in a window box ;-) Cristian Burneci. . >Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 10:42:51 +0100 >From: "Joerg Dietze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: FREE DOS Multi-tasking? >Hi Curtis and all, >I tried DOS multasking, too, but without success. It seems that DR-DOS >stops any traffic at serial or ethernet ports when switching to an other >task. I also tried mt.com with wget.exe and dss.exe and it doesn't work >'cuz wget run exclusive and mt was not able to start a second task. > >Regards Joerg > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 15:57:41 -0700 From: "Thomas Tabler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Mindspring/Earthlink tech support team is very sophisticated I believe Dear List: Thomas asked: "How does Mindspring know your OS... {etc.} I don't like to add bandwidth on the Arachne server, but to simplify: I don't know. Nevertheless, I have my beliefs. But I am not trained highly enough to have a definite idea at all. Remember, guys and gals, we are just amateurs, not professionals in TCP/IP and Web-stuff. That makes us sophisticated "power-users" to counter the effect of those big companies that seem to be promoting a big-style Internet. I believe that Mindsping is a very sophisticated network including Unix/Linux machines at a local level, networked into centralized servers running either Win 9.x or a very sophiticated brand of NT 2000. I believe that the ability of the new bigger servers that run Windows use features of Microsoft.com to obtain a lot of data from the "user". Remember, to try to access with my local client Lynx, I had to accept cookies. I think these were used to track me and report what "style" of user I am, and then refer me to this error message. In other words, they "assume" I probably am a non- Windows 95 user and then block me out. This is only my "educated guess". Yours, Thomas Tabler - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne browser, WWW Web browser for DOS-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 16:26:24 -0000 From: "Curtis Matthiesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Free DOS Multi-tasking Does this mean that I can't run more than one Internet program with DR-DOS, as it'd be sharing a com port (my external modem)? If so, I guess I have to mark another one off the list. Regards Curtis Matthiesen - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cristian Burneci" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 9:14 PM Subject: Re: Free DOS Multi-tasking > > Hi everyone! > > I've tried tu use the multitasking feature of DR-DOS, too. They specify in > the doc (somewhere in the help file I believe) that it was impossible for > two applications to share the same peripheral (say a COM port). > In fact this is done by creating a virtual machine for each application, > and in that case the program sees a virtual device not a real one. > I tried to use DOSEMU under Linux. In fact DOSEMU provides such virtual > stuff. Your favorite version of DOS will boot and run not on a plain PC, > but on a > DOSEMU machine. In fact, two or three DOSes will boot simultaneously if you > want... > Well, the emulation of a PC on a PC isn't perfect, but, at least, you have > some real multitasking there. > > (And none of you mentioned Windows NT. And I'm not sure, but I believe > Win9x acts pretty much the same with DOS in a window box ;-) > > Cristian Burneci. > . > > >Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 10:42:51 +0100 > >From: "Joerg Dietze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: FREE DOS Multi-tasking? > > >Hi Curtis and all, > > >I tried DOS multasking, too, but without success. It seems that DR-DOS > >stops any traffic at serial or ethernet ports when switching to an other > >task. I also tried mt.com with wget.exe and dss.exe and it doesn't work > >'cuz wget run exclusive and mt was not able to start a second task. > > > >Regards Joerg > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 20:00:00 -0500 From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Free DOS Multi-tasking Curtis Matthiesen wrote: > > Does this mean that I can't run more than one Internet program with DR-DOS, > as it'd be sharing a com port (my external modem)? > > If so, I guess I have to mark another one off the list. I can't see how ANY programs could share a com port, any more than how you could connect to two ISPs at once with one telephone line. It should be possible for two programs to share one winsock or TCP/IP stack while that single winsock communicates to your single comport for BOTH programs. But maybe it would be easier to run two modems and two telephone lines. Certainly faster. <G> - - Clarence Verge - -- - - Help stamp out FATWARE. As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/ - - The internet is infected - Windows is a VIRUS !! - -- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 20:37:58 -0400 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Individual Setups On Fri, 25 May 2001 14:55:36 -0500, Clarence Verge wrote: > Gregory J. Feig wrote: >> ...and...some >> things (e.g. multitasking) are IMPOSSIBLE in DOS... > Not so. > See TSX for proof that multitasking is just another application. > And also for proof that there is no free lunch. <G> For further examples of that proof.... http://sourceforge.net/projects/sealsystem/ (still being developed) :) http://www.alphalink.com.au/~tjaden/thepaw/ (now abandoned) :( However, the SRC for ThePaw is available for D/L :) - -- Glenn http://arachne.cz/ http://freedos-32.sourceforge.net/ http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/ http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/download.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 20:40:39 -0500 From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: They are only ONE Christof, the zip came down OK. Maybe I had a reception error, or your server didn't like the .ZBM filetype yesterday. That's interesting, with YOUR Arachne version the first and last images are the pix of Ron Clarke, and Glenn and Bernie get red boxes. With MY Arachne, (1.62) *ALL* are red boxes. :( Guenter, I think there may be a problem with the HTML. - - Clarence Verge - -- - - Help stamp out FATWARE. As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/ - - The internet is infected - Windows is a VIRUS !! - -- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 20:46:49 -0400 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Runaway Downloads On Fri, 25 May 2001 22:42:34 -0500, L.D. Best wrote: > I now have a huge collection of two whole pages which will consistently > cause the "runaway download syndrome" and which can be broken out of > using the "I" or "H" with perseverence. > At first glance, other than the presense of javascript, I find nothing > which jumps out at me as weird & shared by both pages. > I need a larger collection so I can refine the possible causes, so I'm > hoping that everyone using 1.70r3 who runs across a site guilty of > triggering "runaway download syndrome" will save the URL and let me know > .... only that way can I amass a collection 200 or 300 percent larger. > <G> Thanks very much for such diligent work. However, we already know what type of page causes it. Any page which does not send the file size of the HTM, HTML, SHTML, ASP, CGI, etc, etc, etc... Such pages will sometimes "spontaneously trigger" the bug. Others will be fine unless we attempt to abort the D/L before it has completed. Try aborting http://www.metacrawler.com/ at about 10kb (might take several tries to trigger the bug) - -- Glenn http://arachne.cz/ http://freedos-32.sourceforge.net/ http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/ http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/download.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 21:10:19 -0400 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Down with windows On Fri, 25 May 2001 23:34:20 -0400 (EDT), Thomas Mueller wrote: > Does anybody know what happens with Arachne Insight when an incoming > message has a line of 1024 or more characters? http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/long_lines-and-Arachne_Insight.jpg (213kb) Does that answer your question? - -- Glenn http://arachne.cz/ http://freedos-32.sourceforge.net/ http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/ http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/download.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 21:13:19 -0400 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Down with windows On Fri, 25 May 2001 23:34:24 -0400 (EDT), Thomas Mueller wrote: > from Glenn McCorkle: > Yep.... that was the "run-away D/L" bug. > For such pages, we can get them by using the "Cntrl+enter" feature. > (this will D/L the page without attempting to display it) > This also points-out another problem in v1.70;r3 > After using Cntrl+enter, all of the links on the page are "dead". > We must leave the page and come back to it in order to bring > the links "back-to-life". :(( > After doing that, we can then take the same link again and the > page will be displayed. > (end of quote) > Where does the downloaded page or file go, and do you choose the file name to > save to? Or do you have to go fishing in the CACHE directory among files with > cryptic names? I remember the one that got away, where I was never able to find > the download; that was some versions back. When we come back to the page where the link was and take the link again... That link will then be displayed on our screen just as normal. (but this time it is loaded from disk, not from the URL) - -- Glenn http://arachne.cz/ http://freedos-32.sourceforge.net/ http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/ http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/download.htm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 08:28:33 +0000 From: "Ron Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Down with windows Hi Folks, Glenn, Glenn McCorkle wrote: > BTW, > Your server is sending GIFs as "content-type text/plain" Yeah, I know. They have been doing that for months and months. I have given up telling them and having it ignored. At least they have stopped sending my MIDI files as "content-type text/plain", so I am grateful for small mercies. They didn't update all the default settings when they upgraded their server software to a newer Redhat version. Most of my other pages are OK - they are scattered from Australia through California to Germany, all on different servers. Regards, Ron Ron Clarke http://homepages.valylink.net.au/~ausreg/music.html - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Versatile Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 23:11:47 -0500 From: "Neil Parks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: deja and google Re: arachne-digest V1 #1534 > Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 13:10:20 -0500 > From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Web access to UseNet [was Re: Down with windows > I don't know about MailAndNews, but I have -- in the past, when > totally desperate -- accessed ngs via DejaNews. Deja was bought out by Google. BTW, in response to another question in same digest asking what google is, it's a very fast search engine. It works similar to other popular search engines such as Yahoo, Alta Vista, etc., but doesn't clutter the screen and waste download time with as much garbage as the others do. ...This message brought to you by: NEIL EDWARD PARKS, Beachwood, Ohio mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.en.com/users/neparks ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 06:42:47 +0200 From: "Lars Wigrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Runtime Error 200 Glenn, > "Google" is a great search engine. :))) > http://www.google.com/ Yes, I know. I just said what I think it sounds like to me :))) <google> <google> <munch> <chew> <burp>... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 03:10:47 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Mindspring/Earthlink tech support team is very sophisticated I believe On Sat, 26 May 2001 15:57:41 -0700, Thomas Tabler wrote: > Dear List: > Thomas asked: "How does Mindspring know your OS... {etc.} I don't > like to add bandwidth on the Arachne server, but to simplify: I don't > know. Nevertheless, I have my beliefs. But I am not trained highly > enough to have a definite idea at all. Remember, guys and gals, we are > just amateurs, not professionals in TCP/IP and Web-stuff. That makes us > sophisticated "power-users" to counter the effect of those big companies > that seem to be promoting a big-style Internet. I believe that Mindsping > is a very sophisticated network including Unix/Linux machines at a local > level, networked into centralized servers running either Win 9.x or a > very sophiticated brand of NT 2000. I believe that the ability of the > new bigger servers that run Windows use features of Microsoft.com to > obtain a lot of data from the "user". Remember, to try to access with > my local client Lynx, I had to accept cookies. I think these were used > to track me and report what "style" of user I am, and then refer me to > this error message. In other words, they "assume" I probably am a non- > Windows 95 user and then block me out. This is only my "educated guess". I believe it is illegal for an ISP to refuse service to a subscriber for reason that the subscriber is using an OS which competes with the one the ISP is trying to promote. This is a violation of the anti-monopoly laws. I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that MicroSoft is paying bribes to ISPs that go out of their way to promote their OS to the exclusion of all others. Sam Heywood ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 10:54:10 +0200 From: Florian Xaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Free DOS Multi-tasking Hi! >I've tried tu use the multitasking feature of DR-DOS, too. They specify in >the doc (somewhere in the help file I believe) that it was impossible for >two applications to share the same peripheral (say a COM port). >In fact this is done by creating a virtual machine for each application, >and in that case the program sees a virtual device not a real one. >I tried to use DOSEMU under Linux. In fact DOSEMU provides such virtual >stuff. Your favorite version of DOS will boot and run not on a plain PC, >but on a There are some packet driver, which supports multitasking in more than one task at the same time! bye, flox Dr-DOS - the unofficial page - http://www.drdos.org SEAL - the best GUI for (Free)DOS - http://www.seal.de.vu Ostbahnkurti - http://www.archlab.tuwien.ac.at/~hase/franz/konzert_kal.html - -=Lieber Inl�nder Rum als Ausl�nder raus!=- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 05:37:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "Thomas Mueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: DOS Graphics Programs Lars wrote: >Of course. Actually I'm not into programming very much, but AFAIK it's a bug >in the CRT library of TurboPascal 5 and/or 6, or similar. Effectively this >means that if you run the program on a "fast" machine, usually faster than >150-200 MHz, the program aborts with this Runtime Error. Bernie responded: Actually in pratice this shows to not be correct. The problem comes when you use a Pentium Pro class CPU with those speeds. CPUs that are affected are: Pentium Pro, Pentium II, Pentium III, Pentium IV, Duron and Thunderbird. For instance an AMD k6-2 will still run those programs fine even if you are well above 200MHz. (snip) Would the Athlon be included too? Does this Runtime Error affect Arachne? It is awful strange to buy a fast computer only to slow it down to avoid this Runtime Error! I presume Borland has long discontinued support for Turbo Pascal 5, 5.5 and 6. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 05:37:05 -0400 (EDT) From: "Thomas Mueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Seek help #2 (begin quote) I just sent Seekhey the ARCHN170.EXE as an email attachment...I know it went, 'cause I saw it go... My ISP wuuuuvs me...!!!...actually he lets me do just about anything like this I want to do....someone tried to receive a 200Mbyte email attachment, once, and jammed up all the servers, except the main portal server, and he got a bit miffed, but other than something like that, he just lets us jump in and try the water to our hearts content.....<g g g > Seedhey should get back to me later today and let me know if the attachment got through.... If it did, then we are one step closer to SeekHey's install...BUT we need to get instructions ready, as to how he should install it, where, his file-directs (e.g. f:\mail\, i:\cache\, etc. I think we all agree that Arachne runs best from an approximately 12Mbyte, or bigger, RAMDisk. Installed this way, Arachne is the fastest Downloader on the whole web, as far as dialup ISPs go. ..and even 14.4 should be reasonably fast. .......gregy (end of quote) Do most ISPs accept 200 MB email nessage? Bluegrass Net stated their maximum was 8 MB, while most other ISPs had a maximum of 5 MB. I thought Seek Hey said he was going to download Arachne at school and carry home on diskette. Seek Hey's modem speed. 14.4K, might roughly suggest how much RAM he might have, considering what was in vogue when 14.4K modems were in vogue (1994?). Some extended memory must be saved for DPMI programs and other extended memory use. Maybe 12 MB would be too much? How big a RAMdisk is possible in DOS if one has a current up-to-date computer with 256 MB RAM? Regarding the illegality of Seek Hey's grandmother sharing a copy of Windows, commercial software licenses typically allow use on one computer. But with Linux or (Free, Net or Open)BSD, it is perfectly legal to use a CD or set of CDs to install on multiple computers. I guess they're not on the lookout for people using the same copy of DOS on more than one computer? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 12:23:16 +0200 (CEST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) Subject: Free DOS Multi-tasking Hi 26 May 2001, Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Does this mean that I can't run more than one Internet program with >> DR-DOS, as it'd be sharing a com port (my external modem)? >> >> If so, I guess I have to mark another one off the list. CV> I can't see how ANY programs could share a com port, any more than how CV> you could connect to two ISPs at once with one telephone line. See PKTMux ... it takes an existing packetdriver interface and makes many 'copies' of it for different VMs. I don't know where I found it ... but google.com should help. CV> It should be possible for two programs to share one winsock or TCP/IP CV> stack while that single winsock communicates to your single comport CV> for BOTH programs. Why use windows (winsock) ?? Linux would be MUCH more efficient ! CV> But maybe it would be easier to run two modems and two telephone CV> lines. Certainly faster. <G> or linux CV> - Clarence Verge CU, Ricsi - -- |~)o _ _o Richard Menedetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> {ICQ: 7659421} (PGP) |~\|(__\| -=> We give nothing as willingly as our advice <=- ------------------------------ End of arachne-digest V1 #1535 ******************************
