arachne-digest Saturday, February 19 2000 Volume 01 : Number 1005
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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 00:50:14 -0500
From: Mark David Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Trouble with TELNET
>>Mark Roth wrote:
>>I finally found out a little bit about TELNET. I wanted to use it to
>>delete some files from my email server. I was able to login OK and it
>>seemed to accept the deletions I wanted to make. But I know I need a
>>successful update to get them to work and I couldn't do it. I tried entring
>>UPDATE and I got back an -err message. When I tried the QUIT command I also
>>got an -err message for that butit did quit and return to Arachne. It did
>>not successfuly delete the messages. What else can I do to get it tpo work?
>>Is there something wrong with the copy of TELNET that I have?
>>
>
>- -Bart replied
>- -You'll have to use the external FTP (ftp.exe) that comes with telnet.apm.
>
>I'll hav eto learn about FTP.EXE. I don't yet know anything about it
>except using ftp:// instead of http:// for transfering files instead of
>downloading pages.
- -Bart replied:
- -When you shell out of arachne (alt-e) and type FTP at the dos prompt, you
- -get a similar screen as in telnet.exe. Probably your ISP has some info
- -about servers on a webpage, from which you should use the ftp-server.
- -(ftp.xs4all.nl is just an example, it's the server I use myself, but it
- -requires a login with password, similar to telnet)(there is also a link to
- -ftp.ook and telnet.ook, on the arachne utilities page, choose "your
- -applications". You can, of course, add links to .ook to your dialpage.
I tried using FTP.EXE too. It's a lot friendlier than TELNET. At least I can
get the help command to work. I tried tpo delete the files that are giving
me trouble. It verified each delete, all 124 of them. But it didn't do9 it.
Their still there. When you use TELNET the dele doesn't actually work until
you successfully quit. I haven't been able to do that either. I don't know
what you have to do to get the deleted files to actually be deleted.
I succesfully closed the server.
- -When you use telnet.exe from the dos prompt, you type alt-a to end server
- -mode and then the name of a server you want to log in to (mine is
- -xs4.xs4all.nl). Then you'll be prompted for name and password, and get to
- -your website.
- -Telnet.exe does not have support for file transfer commands, nor for
- -renaming or deleting. FTP.exe does.
TELNET has file transfer commands but I couldn't get them to work. There
is RETR to download a file. And there is DELE to delete the files. The
files aren't actually deleted until you successfully quit.
>
>- -Probably you'll have to open anather server (like "open ftp.xs4all.nl"
>- -instead of "xs4.xs4all.nl") if you use it manually).
>
>What's xs4.xs4all.nl?
>I started TELNET by pressing the [T] key.
>My server is pop.hotpop.com. When I used TELNET I logged in with the
>command:
>
>telnet> pop.hotpop.com 110
>telnet> user myusername
>telnet> pass mypassword
>Then I entered the delete comands for the messages starting with:
>telnet> dele 26
>telnet> dele 25
>And so on until I did all of the first 26 messages
>Then I tried to use a command trhat I wasn't sure would work, and it didn't.
>telnet> update
>telnet> -err
>Then I tried a command that really should have worked but it didn't either.
>telnet> quit
>It quit the whole program but didn't update the dele commands.
- -"dele" in telnet.exe is new to me. Does it work?
The DELE command seems to work fine. But the files aren't actually deleted
until you successfully quit. The QUIT command hsn't been working for me.
- -I usually logout with exit, not quit, but that's to end a unix shell, not
-telnet.exe
Does EXIT work? I tried [Alt-X] it exited but it didn't update the deleted
files. They're still there.
- -(that's alt-x, but telnet automatically ends when the connection
- -is broken)
>
>Then it returned me to Arachne
>
>- -Yet if you use telnet on a unix shell account, try "mc" for a change.
>
>What do you mean? is there a "mc" command for TELNET or FTP and what does
>it do?
>
- -mc (midnight commander) is a graphic filemanager for unix (it's even in
- -MonkeyLinux) of which I suppose Norton and Volkov commanders are ports,
- -clones or at least lookalikes. Mc can be used through telnet for site
- -maintainance, although it's internal editor (or standard editor) "vi" is
- -completely obscure to me.
>- -The function keys can be replaced by <escape> with the number key
>- -(<esc><1> instead of <F1>)
>
- -That's just my experience, I can offer to share. Please don't be angry if
- -it doesn't apply...
- -AntiViral Toolkit Pro v3.0 build 126
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Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:12:57 -0800
From: "Bob Buckland ?:-\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Arachne Load Error (Arachne with CompuServe)
Hi Roger,
<<Roger Turk
If you log onto Compuserve, you
*can't* get on the web, but you can FTP, Telnet, etc., except *browse* the
www. The exception is, I think, using Compuserve's proprietary software,
you can browse the web.>>
Ummm, huh? If you have CompuServe "Classic" account (i.e. you have
a numeric ID) then you can certainly use BobCat, NetTamer,
Arachne etc with a CompuServe dial up. If you have a
CompuServe 2000 account (i.e. AOL screen names) then no, you
can't because you're using AOL's front end and it doesn't provide
a PPP connection.
I rarely use the Arachne dialer to do this. It's usually okay
if you don't need have your modem called by an 'address'.
I thought Steve said he was able to use CompuServe with Arachne,
but not with his FreeWeb account?
One thing he mentioned was the use of smtp.compuserve.com as
the outgoing mail server when not using CompuServe. In the past
you could do that, but it's now a closed relay and it won't
accept mail for sending that doesn't originate from a dialup
on a CompuServe account.
The basic setup for Arachne on Compuserve is to proceed as
normal with the setup (getting the modem to work is often
the hardest part <g>).
In Arachne.cfg the entries for CompuServe, if you're going
to use the Arachne MiniTerm.exe dialer, that you can edit
in are relatively minor, listed here by section of Arachne.cfg
Items not listed can be what setup is successful in creating:
Be sure you're in the Arachne directory when logging in.
===================
[profile]
Connection @epppd.exe>>PPP.LOG
[dialer]
DialPage file:ppp_init.htm
Dialer @MINITERM.EXE>PPP.LOG
TerminalWindow @MINITERM.EXE
UseTerminal Yes
Mode 7E1
Autologin Yes
WaitFor1
Response1 \w\r
WaitFor2 Host Name:
Response2 CPS
WaitFor3 User ID:
Response3 @?
WaitFor4 User ID:
Response4 \u/noint/go:pppconnect
WaitFor5 Password:
Response5 \p
PPPusername CompuServeUserIDhere
PPPpassword CompuServePasswordhere
[tcp/ip]
IP_Address PPP
;IP_Address %MYIP%
NameServer 149.174.213.5
AltNameServer 149.174.211.5
Gateway 0.0.0.0
AltGateway 0.0.0.0
Netmask 0.0.0.0
TCPconfig PPPTCP.CFG
==================
If you're using the Chat dialer or NetDial then change the
above as follows
[Profile]
Connection Ready
[tcp/ip]
IP_Address %MYIP% and it should work
If the modem is on a base address or nonstandard setup
then the Arachne Minidial.exe may have trouble getting
things to work correctly on this one.
The Nameservers may be different if using a CompuServe dialup
outside of the U.S.
Bob Buckland ?:-)
GO InetRes on CompuServe
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Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 21:10:16 -0800
From: "Steve Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne load error
Thanks Dale,
I am using the DNS addresses provided by the Freewwweb ISP instructions for
Windows DUN setup. I am beginning to suspect that after connection and
login verification, Freewwweb is routing requests to a proxy server, as
Sergei suggested. Does that sound likely to you? As for Compuserve, I
wonder if something similar isn't happening there also. I originally got
Compuserve dial-up clues from the CIS Internet Resources Forum. One reason
I was hoping to get Arachne surfing on Freewwweb is so I can dump Compuserve
and continue to use an old DOS machine.
Steve
- --Original Message--
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 18:12:13
From: "Dale Mentzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Steve, are you sure you have the correct DNS (Dynamic Name Server)
addresses for each ISP you are accessing are entered correctly? My
first efforts with Arachne were unsuccessful because I did not know
what these numbers were and I did not enter any. I was able to
connect, but after that nothing happened. If you have these
addresses entered make sure that you enter the correct numbers for
each service and then save each one as a different Arachne profile
(.acf) file. I first connected Arachne successfully with Compuserve,
but I left them about a year ago for a local ISP. Have you visited
the Internet Resources Forum on CIS? You might want to visit there if
you have not as there are some knowledgeable folks there about
Arachne. I hope this helps and please keep trying as Arachne is
definitely worth the effort.<<
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Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 21:34:35 -0800
From: "Steve Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne load error
Sergei,
Compuserve will start at any page. I often use the Arachne home page. It
usually loads okay, at least most of it. But then I can't go to any other
site. I try setting other sites to start, and sometimes the Freewwweb home
page, which is home.freewwweb.com, however that immediately relays to
freewwweb.snap.com. Freewwweb will work from a Windows browser at any start
page, but terms of the subscription require that we start at
home.freewwweb.com
Thanks for being 'that kind of friend'.
Steve
- -- Original Message --
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:06:10 +0300
From: "Sergei Kramar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> ...
> Sergei,
> My Compuserve email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and my Freewwweb
> address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry, I am not sure what you mean by
> 'hostname'. Compuserve email servers are pop.compuserve.com and
> smtp.compuserve.com; Freewwweb's is pop3.freewwweb.com and
> smtp.compuserve.com
>>Steve,
OK. What do you see in the status line and in the URL field when
Compuserve start page is loading? And what is for Freewwweb?
In all details, please.
> You said before that I would need an NT or Unix machine to determine IP
> number address of the start pages. Sorry, I don't have that kind of
friend.
>>I can do it myself but I need the names of start pages at least.
Sergei.
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Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:13:28 -0800
From: "Steve Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne load error
- -- Original Message --
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 22:08:05 -0500
From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Steve,
I think that it is about time for you to post your ARACHNE.CFG. We can go
on
guessing for the rest of the year about what you have, to no avail.<<
Okay Roger.
Here is what I have setup for Compuserve. It dials up, logs in and loads
the designated HomePage, at least it commences loading --often it stalls
midway. But then when I key G and enter another well known URL, it "Cannot
locate computer [URL]" and finally goes to the Arachne Load Error screen:
;This is ARACHNE.CFG for Arachne version 1.4+
;If you want to use Arachne on PC with CPU 486+ you should start here.
;(tested on AMD K5/133)
;This configuration file can be completely controled from Arachne setup.
;Run "setup" if you are not sure what to change in configuration file.
[profile]
Profile DEFAULT.ACF
Connection @epppd.exe>>PPP.LOG
Hangup @termin.com 0x60>NUL
;Connection @cmd ... command cmd will estabilish connection
;Connection READY ... connection is permanent, packet driver in
AUTOEXEC...
;Connection NUL ... do not start TCP/IP (run "arachne -c" to force this)
[dialer]
DialPage file:ppp_init.htm
Dialer @MINITERM.EXE>PPP.LOG
TerminalWindow @MINITERM.EXE
UseTerminal No
Port 1
Irq 4
Base Default
Mode 7E2
Speed 19200
InitString ATZ
DialString ATDT
PhoneNumber 1-213-688-7363
Autologin Yes
WaitFor1
Response1 \r
WaitFor2 me:
Response2 CPS\r
WaitFor3 ID:
Response3 @?
WaitFor4 ID:
Response4 \u/noint/go:pppcon\r
WaitFor5 rd:
Response5 \p\r
PPPusername 70062,2437
PPPpassword *************
;Base values: Default|0x??? (eg. 0x3e8)
;Mode values: databits/parity/stopbits (eg. 8N1)
[tcp/ip]
IP_Address PPP
IP_Grab IP address set to
NameServer 149.174.211.5
AltNameServer 149.174.213.5
Gateway 0.0.0.0
AltGateway 0.0.0.0
Netmask 0.0.0.0
TCPconfig PPPTCP.CFG
;IP_Address n.n.n.n ... fixed IP address
;IP_Address PPP ... for PPP.EXE and PPPD.EXE (get address from PPP.LOG)
;IP_Address BOOTP ... WatTcp attepmts to use BOOTP protocol
;IP_Address %enviro% ... Minuet style (enviroment variable, like %MYIP%)
;IP_Address WATTCP ... use ONLY values from TCPconfig (variable "my_ip")
;IP_Grab string ... prefix of IP address in PPP.LOG ("IP address set
to")
;TCPconfig filename ... name of WatTcp configuration file (often
WATTCP.CFG)
[mail]
SMTPserver smtp.compuserve.com
POP3server pop.compuserve.com
POP3username 70062.2437
POP3password *************
KeepOnServer Yes
eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PersonalName Steve Evans
Organization Arachne Fan Club
TimeZone -800
UseSignature Yes
SignatureFile SIGN.TXT
MailEncoding MIME
MailSortOrder DateSnt
NoHELO No
KillSent No
MailIdxTemplate idxfast.htp
ForwardString1 ----- Forwarded message begin -----
ForwardString2 ------ Forwarded message end ------
ReplyString On %s, %s wrote:
MyCharset US-ASCII
MailBodyEncoding 7bit
;MailSortOrder values: DateRcv|DateSnt|Address|Subject
[internet]
HTTPproxy proxy.provider.com:8080
UseProxy No
HomePage http://home.arachne.cz/
SearchPage http://www.google.com/
FTPusername user
FTPpassword xxxxxx
FTPhost ftp.provider.com
FTPpath /home/user/
AcceptCharset ISO-8859-1,*
[system]
Hotlist .\HOTLIST.HTM
History .\HISTORY.LST
CookieFile .\COOKIES.LST
CacheIndex .\CACHE.IDX
CachePath CACHE\
Cache2TEMP No
MailPath MAIL\
DownloadPath DOWNLOAD\
[misc]
Logo 12000
LoadImages Yes
Frames No
FastJPEGs No
RefreshDelay 20
ScreenSaver 0
LocalIcons Yes
ESC Exits
F3key file:*.htm
AutoF3key Yes
BigFont No
ScrollBarSize 14
ScrollBarStyle NextStep
Colors 11 0
MouseColors 15 15
VirtualScreen 0
ScreenMode Auto
SmoothScroll No
ScrollStep 1000
BgColor #000000
Text #F0F0F0
Link #00FF00
ExitOnHangup No
Buttons buttons
ASCIIwidth 78
HTMLtext #000000
HTMLbgColor #C4C4C4
HTMLlink #0000C4
;AfterPOP3 smtp:
;AfterSMTP file:mail.htm
ShiftF1 file:howto.htm
ShiftF2 file://oops\*.??k
ShiftF3 file:*.*
ShiftF4 file://examples\newfile.htm
ShiftF5 http://www.yahoo.com/
ShiftF6 http://www.wired.com/
ShiftF7 http://www.altavista.com/
ShiftF8 http://www.hotbot.com/
ShiftF9 http://www.slashdot.org/
ShiftF10 file://readmail.dgi
AltTab No
EditHotlistEntry Yes
Autodial No
UseCID No
UseCDescr No
AltSysFont 0
Index *.htm
FontShift 0
Multitasking Yes
;ScrollBarStyle values: NextStep|Windows|Arachne|X
;BgColor,Text,Link values: #RRGGBB (hexadecimal values of red, green and
blue)
;VirtualScreen value: vertical number of pixels, 0 disables virtual screen.
;ScreenMode values: Auto|Smart|Nice
;BodyArachne values: System|Default|All
;Colors values are <ink 0..15> <paper 0..15>
[security]
SavePasswords Yes
Cookies Yes
HTTPreferer Yes
;FakeFTPeMail user@domain
[not-yet-implemeted]
NNTPserver news.provider.com
IRCserver irc.provider.com:6667
IRCchannel #arachne
IRCnick arachne_user
[auto-added]
WaitFor5 Password:
Response5 \p
POP3log No
SMTPlog No
UseKeyMap No
MinDiskSpace 128
Kill468x60 No
XMS4allGIFs 2048
XMS4OneGIF 270000
CacheFonts Yes
For Freewwweb I change necessary lines as follows. It dials up okay,
connects and logs in, installs packet driver handler. . . but never
successfully finds any designated HomePage. It stalls while status reads
"Asking domain name server for home.freewwweb.com":
Mode 8N1
PhoneNumber 1-213-330-0518
Autologin No
PPPusername [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PPPpassword *******
NameServer 216.70.64.1
AltNameServer 216.70.64.1
HomePage http://home.freewwweb.com
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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 10:33:46 +0100 (MET)
From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Two DOS MIDI players which work on Soundblaster 16
Dev Teelucksingh wrote:
>I have a Creative Labs Soundblaster 16 SCSI-2 card and I use two DOS
>MIDI players which work fine :
>
>Megamid v1.66 http://freeweb.digiweb.com/music/megamiddos/
> Graphical MIDI Player for DOS. Also supports playing of Karaoke MIDI files
quote from the documentation
- -- I'VE GOT A SOUND BLASTER PRO/16 AND I DON'T HEAR ANYTHING! --
Of course! The plain vanilla SB Pro/16 you buy off the shelf only has a
FM chip (Yamaha OPL-2 or OPL-3) for making music, and MegaMID does not
support that. To get any sound out of your SB Pro/16, you'll need to
either :
* Connect some sort of external MIDI equipment via your SB's joystick port,
like a music keyboard or synthesizer (with MIDI)
* If you have a SB 16 with a WaveBlaster connector, you can get a wavetable
daughterboard card
* Buy a new sound card
- -- WILL THERE BE SUPPORT FOR THE FM CHIP ? --
Probably not.
I've tried... it's too much trouble and it sounds pretty bad.
With wavetable cards getting more popular and old FM-based cards
getting obsolete, it's probably not worth the trouble to do it.
People with FM cards who are serious about their music should upgrade
to a wavetable card.
end of quote
>GSPLAY v1.1
ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/music/gsplay1.zip
> A freeware MIDI player. Can also play Karaoke MIDI files.
Sorry to disapoint you but this program doesn't work with a SB16.
Of course it can *view* kareoke files - but that isn't very helpful since
the point with .kar files are that you can sing along with the music. ;)
>Obviously FM synthesis leaves much to be desired so I upgraded the card
>with an Ensoniq Daughterboard (similiar to a WaveBlaster addon board
>but cheaper at the time)
You can't claim that any SB16 works if you have bought extra equipment for
yours.
I've tried most of the programs that exist that claim to work and only two
really work. The first one is called play.exe and came with my SB16, the
other is Cubic Player (which I didn't even know could play MIDIs up until a
few days ago).
I really can't see why all the people that have made midi and/or kareoke
players assume that a daughterboard or extra chip is a standard
configuration. No matter how crappy it sounds SB16 is still the de facto
standard amoung soundcards.
Thankfully we have moved on from beeper -> Adlib -> SB -> SB16. And my bet
is that Creative environmental audio (used in SB Live cards) or Aureal 3D
(open standard - so more cards exist that use it, but no DirectX support is
planned from M$) will be the new standard in a "few" (5 or so) years.
When I tried Cubic Player I must say that some MIDIs sounded much better
(ex. USSR national song, pink panther theme) but some sounded terrible (ex.
Star Wars theme). All comparsions with play.exe of course.
BTW: Another usefull thing I noticed that Cubic Player haev is the fact
that it can see files that are packed and unpack them for playing.
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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 10:55:29 +0100 (MET)
From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Trouble with TELNET
Bart wrote:
>>What do you mean? is there a "mc" command for TELNET or FTP and what does
>>it do?
>>
>mc (midnight commander) is a graphic filemanager for unix (it's even in
>MonkeyLinux) of which I suppose Norton and Volkov commanders are ports,
>clones or at least lookalikes. Mc can be used through telnet for site
>maintainance, although it's internal editor (or standard editor) "vi" is
>completely obscure to me.
mc is a textbased program - not a graphical one. And AFAIK Norton came
first and Midnight later.
And the internal editor in mc is not "vi" it's "mcedit" which isn't so very
strange from a standard (DOS) text editor. My favorite is still SetEdit
since the shortcuts are the normal ones, but mcedit isn't to bad. IIRC the
backspace key even removes the characther to the left and the delete key
the curent characther - and this is *very* uncommon in the UN*X world.
//Bernie
http://bernie.arachne.cz/ DOS programs, Star Wars ...
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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 06:09:36 -0500 (EST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Arachne load error
>
You said before that I would need an NT or Unix machine to determine IP
number address of the start pages. Sorry, I don't have that kind of friend.
Is there a Windows 95 utility or maybe a website that would help me here? I
poked around on MS IE for a status indicator showing a site's IP number, but
nothing. I will try to get Freewwweb techs to disclose their proxy server
address, IF they are indeed using a proxy.
>
What start page? It seems you would need tracerte, traceroute or the
equivalent, or nslookup. Is that not in Win 95 somewhere? I see I have a
TRACERT.EXE for DOS somewhere, and I have used TRACERTE in OS/2 Warp 4. But no
Unix would be without these utilities.
Thomas Mueller
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 06:09:37 -0500 (EST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Trouble with TELNET
I tried to send a message by Arachne SMTP through Telebot, and it seemed to
work, but the message failed to reach the destination. UKA_PPP failed but
showed an error message.
Thomas Mueller
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 12:08:37 +0100 (CET)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter)
Subject: Trouble with TELNET
Hi
"Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
SH> If this program was indeed listed for DOS, then you are getting a bum
SH> steer. This is Windoze Bloatware, 1,888,010 bytes. It is PC-Pine
SH> version 4.21, dated November 1999. I excerpt the following quote from
SH> INSTALL.TXT, one of the files contained within the archive:
SH> "Note that as of version 4.00, PC-Pine is only available for
SH> Windows95, Windows98 and Windows-NT."
SH> Does anyone know where we can get a compatible version of Pine?
Go to http://www.washington.edu/pine/
click on pc-pine, download the wattcp/packetdriver pine version !!
Works GREAT !! and I love the news (NNTP) part of it !
SH> Sam Heywood
CU, Ricsi
- --
Richard Menedetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ICQ: 7659421] {RSA-PGP Key avail.}
- -=> A good reputation is more valuable than money <=-
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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 11:59:06 +0100 (CET)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter)
Subject: Trouble with TELNET
Hi
"Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
SH> I now realize now that this was a misunderstanding.
yes ;)
SH> IMAP can do things like POP3, but also it also
SH> offers many extended capabilities, such as allowing the user to
SH> manipulate the mail and examine headers while it is still on the
SH> server. That's cool.
Yes ... but many server providers fear, that people leave their mail on the
server. (so there are very few free IMAP servers, and even at my
university, IMAP is only offered for people working at university, and not
for normal students)
SH> I would like to be able to do this. Does anyone
SH> know of a DOS email client that will let you do this?
OK ... as so many want the information I have looked it up.
The only client I know is PINE.
http://www.washington.edu/pine/
and than click at pc-pine.
The other thing you need is an IMAP server. (subdimension, telebot ...)
SH> Sam Heywood
CU, Ricsi
- --
Richard Menedetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ICQ: 7659421] {RSA-PGP Key avail.}
- -=> Forever a pedestrian on the information super-highway <=-
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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 12:17:18 +0100 (CET)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter)
Subject: Trouble with TELNET
Hi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
t> I tried to send a message by Arachne SMTP through Telebot, and it
t> seemed to work, but the message failed to reach the destination.
t> UKA_PPP failed but showed an error message.
They use an extension to SMTP.
As I already wrote SMTP has a _BIG_ drawback, it does not support
authentication, so there is a problem with spammers, and not well
configured servers.
So there are 3 options:
1) allow only certain IP adresses to access the server (not applicable for
free providers, becausr IP adress is not known)
2) pop before smtp (pop requires authentication, after you connect to the
pop server, the IP is recoreded, and you are allowed to use the SMTP
for a certain amount of time)
3) authenticated SMTP (some extension of SMTP, so that you need a
username/passwd)
only methods 1 and 2 can be used with arachne.
(method 2 eg for gmx.net you need first to get your mail, before you are
allowed to send it)
t> Thomas Mueller
CU, Ricsi
- --
Richard Menedetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ICQ: 7659421] {RSA-PGP Key avail.}
- -=> Not breaking the rules, just testing the elasticity <=-
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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 15:30:35 +0100
From: "(null)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: open-source
Hi Arachnoids,
when will Arachne-Core be opensourced??
Regards,
Christoph
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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 17:36:28 +0200
From: Or Botton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: open-source
"(null)" wrote:
>
> Hi Arachnoids,
>
> when will Arachne-Core be opensourced??
According to Michael, nope. Arachne is a commercial software, which is
free for non-commercial use.
Some parts of it might be open-sourced, but definetly not the Core.
Or Botton
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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 17:30:19 +0300
From: "Sergei Kramar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne load error
On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:28:19 -0500, Roger Turk wrote:
> Sergei,
> Getting on the web thru Compuserve is rather convoluted and that is why I
> want Steve Evans to post his ARACHNE.CFG. If you log onto Compuserve, you
> *can't* get on the web, but you can FTP, Telnet, etc., except *browse* the
> www. The exception is, I think, using Compuserve's proprietary software, you
> can browse the web.
Roger,
You report very queer things. WWW is based on HTTP protocol that is
member of TCP/IP family as FTP, Telnet, etc. It generates the same IP
packets that should be handled properly by Compuserve. Some local
providers probably may disable HTTP but this is political question not
technical.
Sergei.
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Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 16:32:27 +0300
From: "Sergei Kramar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne load error
On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 21:34:35 -0800, Steve Evans wrote:
> Sergei,
> Compuserve will start at any page. I often use the Arachne home page. It
> usually loads okay, at least most of it. But then I can't go to any other
> site. I try setting other sites to start, and sometimes the Freewwweb home
> page, which is home.freewwweb.com, however that immediately relays to
> freewwweb.snap.com. Freewwweb will work from a Windows browser at any start
> page, but terms of the subscription require that we start at
> home.freewwweb.com
Steve,
There is the single IP address of the host that deals with electric
signals of provider's receiving modem you have dial-up access to. Namely
this hostname providers used to give as starting page for their clients.
And only with this host you can handle exactly without DNS (Domain Name
System) service. Any other start pages may be situated anywhere in the
world and may be accessible without DNS servicing (via IP address) or may
be not. That is why I bothered you by "hostname" questions.
Well, I've learned some interesting information for you about your
providers and their networking service. Your native Freewwweb e-mail is
[EMAIL PROTECTED] you may use it in .cfg and your e-mail will
work more reliable. You can send e-mail to yourself from freewwweb.com to
pps-2.smartworld.net and see the results. Some nslookup info is given
below:
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(for Compuserve)
Authoritative answers can be found from:
compuserve.com nameserver = ARL-NAME-SVC-1.compuserve.com
compuserve.com nameserver = DUB-NAME-SVC-1.compuserve.com
ARL-NAME-SVC-1.compuserve.com internet address = 149.174.211.5
DUB-NAME-SVC-1.compuserve.com internet address = 149.174.213.5
(for Freewwweb)
freewwweb.com preference = 10, mail exchanger = mx.smartworld.net
freewwweb.com nameserver = cbru.br.ns.els-gms.att.net
freewwweb.com nameserver = dbru.br.ns.els-gms.att.net
freewwweb.com nameserver = nic.near.net
freewwweb.com nameserver = ns.smartworld.net
mx.smartworld.net internet address = 216.70.64.22
mx.smartworld.net internet address = 216.70.64.23
cbru.br.ns.els-gms.att.net internet address = 199.191.128.105
dbru.br.ns.els-gms.att.net internet address = 199.191.128.106
nic.near.net internet address = 192.52.71.4
ns.smartworld.net internet address = 216.70.64.1
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As you can see you set correct Primary and Secondary nameservers for
Compuserve 149.174.211.5 and 149.174.213.5, but for Freewwweb you
set the single 216.70.64.1. There are 3 additional nameservers for
Freewwweb and you can try to set them in .cfg
About start pages in a light of my previous letter you can try the
following IP addresses:
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Non-authoritative answer:
Name: home.snap.com
Addresses: 206.132.166.64, 206.132.166.65, 206.132.166.66, 206.132.166.67
206.132.166.61, 206.132.166.62, 206.132.166.63
Aliases: freewwweb.snap.com
Name: home.freewwweb.com
Addresses: 216.70.93.138, 216.70.93.170
=================================================
Good luck,
Sergei.
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