On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 02:44:36 -0400 (EDT), Thomas Mueller wrote:

>> The URL is http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~jchap/tvde.htm

> It is indeed a program that incorporates SMTPOP; however, with Barebones
> you don't have to create a work file and a message file for each email
> message.  Barebones is very easy to use.  No need to hassle with "glued
> headers" and other such consternations.  The disadvantage of Barebones is
> that it is very sparse on features.  What do you expect of an entire email
> program that can fit on one bootable 360K floppy?  Of its few features,
> the small size of the program, and the fact that it works so reliably, are
> the most commendable and admirable.

> Sam Heywood

> Sam,

> What kind of headers does SMTPOP use on upload?  Regular headers such as Arachne
> or UKA_PPP uses?  I remember trying to send messages with SMTPOP, got no error
> message, everything looked OK, but the messages never reached their destination.
> Does Barebones improve on SMTPOP?

SMTPOP uses glued headers.  You create two headers and U-glue 'em yourself.
For more info on SMTPOP go to
http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Plaza/4918/mail.html.  The headers are like
the kind Pegasus uses.  Once you have loaded a packet driver and have
established a TCP/IP connection, SMTPOP.EXE still works just fine in a
stand-alone mode.  I just tested it a few minutes ago.  Barebones helps you
to create the headers and Barebones glues them together for you.  Barebones
doesn't improve on SMTPOP, it just makes SMTPOP easier for you to use.  Also
Barebones has a nice built-in mail-reader utility that can be adapted for
use with other email programs.

> What file format does Barebones download to?  One file per message with cryptic
> names of the form (8 digits).CNM, like SMTPOP, like Arachne/Insight?

Barebones uses SMTPOP and it downloads email messages as .CNM files, just
like Arachne.

> I figured from the name that Barebones would just do SMTP upload and POP3
> download.

You are right.  That is the only thing Barebones will do.  Barebones
also provides you with a very nice mail-reader utility that is compiled
into the 6K program BAREBONE.COM

> Do they still make 360K or 1.2 MB floppies?  I don't think they make
> 360K or 1.2 MB floppy drives any more.
> Do they still make 720 KB diskettes
> (3.5" low density) or 720 KB drives?  I haven't been to Office Depot recently.

360K floppies are still available at Radio Shack.  I don't know if they
still make them, or whether they are just selling old over-stocked
merchandise.  I haven't seen any 1.2 MB floppies for sale except at flea
markets where you can still obtain them in unopened boxes.  You can get
them cheap.  The same goes for 720K floppies.  As for the floppy drives,
you can buy them used at flea markets at prices ranging from one dollar to
eight dollars each.  720K floppy drives are very hard to find, but if you
find any, you can usually get them very cheap provided the vendor is unaware
that 720K floppy drives are highly sought-after items.

All the best,

Sam Heywood
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