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     Clarence Verge
  
     Very well expressed. 
 
     The best way to force web page designers to make simple
     and good pages is to dump them, don't go there, ignore 
     them if they include long lines, which are totally
     unreasonable.
 
     We should not change Arachne to accomodate bad web page
     design.
 
     Clarence... one more of your excellent notes.
 
     Ross Virgin
     Toronto, Canada
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On Mon, 29 Jan 2001 15:07:18 -0500, Clarence Verge wrote:

> Steve wrote:

>> On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Edenyard wrote:

>> >       http://www.ladybird.co.uk/noflash_index.html
>> >
>> >    When I try it on V1.70 with frames on, images on, 640 x 480
>> > hi-colour, I get a message saying "Floating point error: Domain" just
>> > before the page fully renders and as the "generating virtual screen"
>> > message appears at the bottom of the screen. What#'s all that about,
>> > then? I'd appreciate it if someone could confirm that it isn't
>> > just me!

>> Skipping the frameset and going directly to the main frame,
>> http://www.ladybird.co.uk/homenavnew_noflash.html

>>   It makes Linux Arachne 4.1.66 just go poof!

>>   Amaya loads the page and some of the images.  Looking at
>> the parsing error log, I see, starting with line 54, several
>> occurences of this kind of message:
>> line 54, char 1032: Panic: buffer overflow

>> Line 54 is greater than 4242 characters long.  I don't know if
>> that's part of the problem with either Arachne or Amaya, but
>> you don't often see lines that long...

>>   Other than that, it's loaded with JS, and one of the images
>> says "To play the games in this site, you need Flash" so even
>> if you could load the page, you won't get much out of it
>> without NS or IE.

> WHY even TRY to bother with crap like that ? 4242 char on one line ? ERIC !

> It's totally pointless to try to make Arachne tolerate that kind of fecal
> matter. Just because NS or IE might POSSIBLY survive is no reason to put
> up with that kind of poor page design.

> Either they want you to see it or they don't - it's as simple as that.

> Surely we aren't so desparate to see what someone that dumb has to say ?

> -  Clarence Verge
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