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> arachne-digest        Friday, February 2 2001        Volume 01 : Number 1441
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> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 21:13:52 -0500
> From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Is anyone paying attention ???
> 
> On Thu, 1 Feb 2001 12:54:11 -0500 (EST), Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Clarence Verge wrote:
> 
> >> I went off half-cocked there: that included the download time !
> >> But I was pretty sure it didn't when I wrote it. arrrrrgggh :-\
> 
> > Well, download times and display times are still irrelevant
> > if only a select few can actually see the image.
> 
> Yeah, I guess you're right.
> 
> There are only a "select few" users who are likely to have an unzipping
> program on their HDD. <g>
> 
> And then of coarse there are even fewer who might have a program
> capable of viewing a .BMP <g>
> 
> 
> 
> - -- 
>  Glenn
> (your friendly neighborhood compu-nerd)
>           http://arachne.cz/
>  http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/
>   http://freedos-32.sourceforge.net/
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 21:26:24 -0500
> From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Is anyone paying attention ??? was IE in X (sorta) ... bug?
> 
> On Thu, 1 Feb 2001 22:22:29 +0100 (CET), Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> > BTW: I never checked, is it the latest version of png2bmp that's shipped
> > with 1.70r3? (You'll notice my name in the plugin list if it is).
> 
> Yep.....
> 
> 
> List of installed Arachne Packages                                  Arachne 1.70
> file:l:\arachne\apm.dgi                                Thu, 01 Feb 2001 21:23:44
> ________________________________________________________________________________
> 
> List of installed Arachne Packages 
> ==============================================================================
> 
> <snip>
> 
> ==============================================================================
>       PNG2BMP - Ver.1.00 
> 
>       License: Copyright(C) 1999 MIYASAKA Masaru 
> 
> 32bit version of PNG2BMP convertor for DOS. Compiled - 00-10-05 by Bernhard
> Eriksson. With libpng ver.1.0.8 and zlib ver.1.1.3 
> ==============================================================================
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - -- 
>  Glenn
> (your friendly neighborhood compu-nerd)
>           http://arachne.cz/
>  http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/
>   http://freedos-32.sourceforge.net/
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 23:10:06 -0500 (EST)
> From: "Andy Geoghegan, Superstar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: OT: re: IE in X
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> please forgive this OT blurb;
> 
> I am a UNIX shell and SLIP account owner... when I browse the web using my
> shell account and my ISP's UNIX machines, I use lynx
> 
> I have heard that X or X Window is like a GUI for UNIX... and I remember
> circa '90 - '96 at the now-defunct ivy high-tech/med book shop - TONS of
> greek computer texts on: X.24, X.23, X.500, X Tools, X Motif - What Were
> These??? What Were These books about??
> 
> What Is X??
> 
> can a random access shell/CLI+{SLIP} acct. user, "Install X?"??, remotely
> on his or her's ISP's UNIX machines?? 
> 
> How would/is this/be done??
> 
> for the average shell(and SLIP) Unix user, like me, of what use? would
> this be/is this???
> 
> would I want to, or even could I, run/install/configure Netscape or IE or
> even Arachne, remotely from my shell terminal to my ISP's UNIX rather than
> on my own (DOS)-WindowsX machine?? would it be faster? ? ?
> 
> just curious!
> 
> please e-me off-list if you feel this is too OT ...
> 
> Andy
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Phila. PA 
> USA
> 
> 
> DOS TCP/IP * <URL:http://www.ncf.ca/~ag221/dosppp.html>
> 
> "*every* child is gifted!"
> 
> please visit: <URL:http://www.reusers.org> ( my story ) 
> 
> also please visit: <URL:http://eop.com/recruiting-cd.html> lists companies
> actively recruiting professionals with disabilities
>                                                          
> please visit: <URL:http://worldcrr.org/kiosks.htm>
> or call Dr. Poe at: (USA) 1-775-829-1799
> get (donated computer) kiosks for *your* country!
> 
> also please visit: <URL:http://eff.org> (where I hope to work one day)
>                                                              
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 23:17:41 -0400
> From: "Clarence Verge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: IE in X (sorta) ... bug?
> 
> On Thu, 01 Feb 2001 19:15:15 -0500, Glenn McCorkle wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 16:56:03 -0500 (EST), Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >> This started out as just a kind of picture of irony, but then
> >> when I tried to display it in Linux Arachne 4.1.66, (GGI & SVGA)
> >> I couldn't use horizontal scroll to see the entire graphic.
> 
> > Everything seems to be working just fine at 800x600 Hicolor
> > (including horizontal scrolling of the page)
> > http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/ok_here.zbm
> 
> > You'll need to save it as ok_here.zip and then unzip it if you don't
> > have the .ZBM "plugin" installed.
> 
> Hi Glenn;
> 
> Four points of possible interest.
> 
> 1) Your ISP apparantly isn't as co-operative as mine.
>    It came down as text/plain.
> 2) It downloaded in 26 sec. - the png took me approx 52 sec.
>    BTW, I'm awake this time. ;-)
> 3) Once saved and selected, it hit the screen in 1 sec exactly.
>    WIDE awake. 8-))
> 4) The horizontal scroll problem doesn't go away for ME in Hicolor mode.
>    At least with A1.62. BRB.
>    Nope. It doesn't scroll sideways for me in A1.70 either. (Hicolor)
>    What are you doing different ?  Aside from being YOU ??
> 
> 
> - - Clarence Verge
> - - Still using Arachne V1.62 ....
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 23:21:45 +0000
> From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: C:\ARACHNE\EXAMPLES\TESTDGI.HTM
> 
> On Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:00:23 +0100, Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Sam wrote:
> >> Either way, it works, assuming a default installation.  For that reason I
> >> utterly fail to see your point.  Your way, or my way, it doesn't matter.
> 
> > The point is that my way would work regardless of where Arachne is
> > installed. Default installations aren't interesting since we can choose
> > where we want to install in DOS (this isn't Windows <g>).
> > //Bernie
> 
> That's OK Bernie.  As I had said before, I respect your right to be
> different.  You don't have to do what everybody else does.  More power
> to you if you to thine own self be true.  Don't quote me.  I think 
> the one who first said that was a character in Shakespeare's Hamlet.
> 
> Sam
> - -- This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser - http://arachne.cz/
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 23:46:39 -0400
> From: "Clarence Verge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: DOS Navigator
> 
> On Thu, 01 Feb 2001 17:37:33 +0000, Ron Clarke wrote:
> 
> > Hi Clarence,
> 
> > It IS worth trying to get it to run.    :)
> 
> Hi Ron, anyone interested in my inflammatory opinions; <g>
> 
> I found out why I couldn't get DN (DOS Navigator) to run.
> That piece of crap wants me to have a mouse. :((  No option.
> 
> It only takes one dumb thing like that to make the other dumb stuff
> jump right out at me.
> 
> To get out of it, you have to hit, in sequence,:
> alt, F, x, ENTER. (for yes)  What's wrong with ESC ESC ?
> 
> With two MAJOR strikes like that, it could make my breakfast every
> day and I'd still dump it. :(
> 
> It's wiped.
> 
> 
> - - Clarence Verge
> - - Still using Arachne V1.62 ....
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 23:55:31 +0000
> From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: List of installed packages
> 
> On Thu, 1 Feb 2001 05:03:38 -0500 (EST), Thomas Mueller wrote:
> 
> >> I have written about this problem before.  So far I have gotten no
> >> response.  I currently have Arachne 1.70 installed on three machines.
> >> In the case of one of the machines, when I am viewing the file UTILS.HTM
> >> and I click on the ikon "List of installed packages" I will always get
> >> the Arachne Load Error Page if I am offline.  When online the list of
> >> installed packages will appear.  The "List of installed packages" feature
> >> will always work as it should on the other two machines regardless of
> >> whether I am online or offline.  Does anyone else have this problem?
> >> Does anyone have any ideas as to how I might correct this problem on the
> >> machine that is apparently misbehaving?
> 
> >> Sam Heywood
> 
> > Can you view .MES or .CNM files offline?  I wonder if your inability to view
> > installed packages offline is related to my inability to view .MES and .CNM
> > files offline.  Did you have this problem with earlier Arachnes like around
> > 1.48?
> 
> Yes, no problem wiewing .MES or .CNM  files offline, except for once in
> a blue moon when my index scheme becomes farkled.  (See my recent reply
> to Ron Clarke on what to do about this.)
> 
> I have used Arachne versions 1.20, 1.41, 1.60(?), and 1.66, and have not 
> had this problem before.
> 
> Sam
> 6 
> - -- This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser - http://arachne.cz/
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 23:42:29 +0000
> From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Corrupted ACFs - smiley faces and more
> 
> On Fri, 02 Feb 2001 10:57:18 +0000, Ron Clarke wrote:
> 
> <snipped all>
> 
> It is possible that your index files in your mail folders might have
> become farkled.  I know of a neat trick that sometimes works with
> problems like yours.  Following my advice might not help, but it
> certainly can't hurt.  This is what *sometimes* works for me to get
> things sorted out correctly:
> 
> 1. ALT - X to get out of Arachne.
> 2. del *.idx and del *.srt in all mail folders.
> 3. Then go back into Arachne.
> 
> When you re-open your mail folders some new *.idx and *.srt files will
> automagically be created for you.  Then things might work as they should.
> I can't guarantee that this will fix the problem, but it might.  Sometimes
> this works for me.
> 
> Sam
> - -- This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser - http://arachne.cz/
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 03:17:43 -0500 (EST)
> From: "Thomas Mueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: List of installed packages
> 
> Sam Heywood,
> 
> You showed your ARACHNE.CFG, but where is the indication for Cache local
> objects?  I can't find it in your ARACHNE.CFG or in my ARACHNE.CFG.  Problem
> was the Arachne Load Error when trying to view local files offline.
> 
> Also I noticed in your ARACHNE.CFG, MailSortOrder DateSnt, which means incoming
> mail is jumbled, not kept in the order of receipt.  That is very confusing to 
> me, as I remember from my days using Ultimail Lite for OS/2.  One mail dated
> March 1 was hidden back at the beginning with date January 3, as Ultimail Lite
> transposed the day and the month.  Besides, sometimes an incoming email message
> bears a date several days or several years in the past.
> 
> To the other Sam (Ewalt): https & shtml are not related.
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 12:30:24 +0000
> From: "Edenyard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: V1.70 (DOS) bug - HTML background colour
> 
>    Another bug, chaps! In V1.70 (DOS):
> 
>    In ARACHNE.CFG, I've set the line 'HTMLbgColor' to TEAL. Now - if I
> reply to a message, I click on 'reply' in that message and I get a nice
> teal background. If, however, I want to write an original message from
> scratch, I click on 'compose message' and the background is light grey.
> In fact, the background in this instance is always light grey, no matter
> what HTMLbgColor is set to.
> 
>    Can someone else please confirm this before I write to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks!
> 
>       Ron.
> 
>    Ron Ickse - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 12:01:36 +0000
> From: "Edenyard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Corrupted ACFs - smiley faces and more
> 
> On Fri, 02 Feb 2001 10:57:18 +0000, Ron Clarke wrote:
> 
> > (....)
> > for creative writing).  You will note that the garbage begins
> > immediately after the SmoothScroll line - sound familiar, anyone ?
> >
> 
>    Yes - that's the one, Ron! I get 4 Ctrl-A characters, one to a line,
> before that inserted comment line. It doesn't always do it, though -
> does it?
> 
>    All the best,
> 
>       Ron - the other one!
> 
>    (Ron Ickse - [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 11:43:35 +0000
> From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Corrupted ACFs - smiley faces and more
> 
> On Fri, 02 Feb 2001 12:01:36 +0000, "Edenyard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 02 Feb 2001 10:57:18 +0000, Ron Clarke wrote:
> 
> >> (....)
> >> for creative writing).  You will note that the garbage begins
> >> immediately after the SmoothScroll line - sound familiar, anyone ?
> 
> > Yes - that's the one, Ron! I get 4 Ctrl-A characters, one to a line,
> > before that inserted comment line. It doesn't always do it, though -
> > does it?
> 
> I get the four smiley faces in the same place too, as described.  They
> put in a an appearance from time to time.  Don't have any idea what
> causes it.
> 
> Sam Heywood
> - -- This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser - http://arachne.cz/
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 11:48:58 +0000
> From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: V1.70 (DOS) bug - HTML background colour
> 
> On Fri, 02 Feb 2001 12:30:24 +0000, "Edenyard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Another bug, chaps! In V1.70 (DOS):
> 
> > In ARACHNE.CFG, I've set the line 'HTMLbgColor' to TEAL. Now - if I
> > reply to a message, I click on 'reply' in that message and I get a nice
> > teal background. If, however, I want to write an original message from
> > scratch, I click on 'compose message' and the background is light grey.
> > In fact, the background in this instance is always light grey, no matter
> > what HTMLbgColor is set to.
> 
> > Can someone else please confirm this before I write to
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks!
> 
> The same thing happens to me on all three machines in which I have 
> installed Arachne.  The background color does not remain consistent.  
> I have found that if I shell to DOS (ALT-E) and then return to Arachne
> by typing EXIT, then the background color will often be restored to the
> color specified in the options.
> 
> Sam Heywood
> 
> - -- This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser - http://arachne.cz/
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 18:03:42 +0100
> From: Flip ter Biecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: termin won't close in a win95 dos box
> 
> Install bugs get rarer by the day, here, but here's one that seems
> unwilling to surrender...
> 
> Arachne runs nicely under win95. Miniterm dials without delay, video runs
> as in Dos, and so does insight.
> Not termin.com though. All installs fail to return to arachne, when termin
> is invoked by alt-h, and when I enter "termin 0x60 after I shell to dos,
> termin just won't return to the c:\> prompt.
> 
> Can anyone confirm this?
> 
> (I start arachne from a direct link to arachne.bat on the desktop. She
> starts in a box, then takes full screen. Alt-e returns to a box. If termin
> hangs, I can't kill the box, because the mouse is hardly useable. I don't
> think it's a common irq conflict, because ctrl-esc and alt-tab won't work
> either. ctrl-alt-del brings up windows' process list, but the window won't
> react to either enter or escape. Another three finger salute does force a
> reboot though.)
> 
> Bart
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 14:18:38 -0500 (EST)
> From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: OT: X apps on Win'95
> 
> On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Andy Geoghegan, Superstar wrote:
> 
> > I am a UNIX shell and SLIP account owner... when I browse the web using my
> > shell account and my ISP's UNIX machines, I use lynx
> > 
> > I have heard that X or X Window is like a GUI for UNIX... and I remember
> > circa '90 - '96 at the now-defunct ivy high-tech/med book shop - TONS of
> > greek computer texts on: X.24, X.23, X.500, X Tools, X Motif - What Were
> > These??? What Were These books about??
> 
>   X.25 is the protocol for radio modem.  I'm not sure about the
> other X.xx protocols.
>   Motif is a proprietary graphics API for Unix.  It's also what 
> PC/GEOS used.   Lesstif is its open-source counterpart.
>  
> > What Is X??
> 
>   X is the abbreviation for "X windows system" which is the
> low/medium-level graphics interface software.  Motif
> would be the layer directly on top of X, then the window manager
> is the layer above that.  Gnome & KDE are Desktop Environments
> which are even higher level layers atop the window managers.
> 
> > can a random access shell/CLI+{SLIP} acct. user, "Install X?"??, remotely
> > on his or her's ISP's UNIX machines?? 
> 
>   No.  You need root privelege to install X... that's even 
> assuming the server has a graphics card.  Many don't.
> HOWEVER, my last ISP had X installed, and even had some of the
> config files as part of each user's default files.  That's 
> quite the exception however.  Do 'ls -al' to see what kind of
> "dot" files you might have in your shell.
>   (If your ISP has X installed, you should be able to run the
> vncserver from your user space though)
> 
> > would I want to, or even could I, run/install/configure Netscape or IE or
> > even Arachne, remotely from my shell terminal to my ISP's UNIX rather than
> > on my own (DOS)-WindowsX machine?? would it be faster? ? ?
> 
>   I only downloaded VNC day before yesterday, so I can't say
> authoritatively what it can or can't do.  Not to mention that
> there are other X server/client kind of programs besides VNC.
> Running programs on the Linux box and viewing them from Win'95 
> over VNC hasn't been flawless... but this is "out of the box."  
> I haven't even looked at any config files yet.
> 
> 
> CAN run:         (*)Barely runs:      (**)Doesn't run:
> - --------       ------------         ----------
> Netscape 3.04    Arachne-GGI          
> xv               xgalaga(+)
> Amaya 4.2.1      gtv
> ImageMagick      
> xjewel
> tetris
> pine
> GIMP
> taipei
> xmms(+)
> slrn
> soundtracker(+)
> gv (frontend for ghostview)
> Netscape 4.76 (-)
> 
> (*) Barely runs
> - ---------------
> Arachne-GGI - I'm going to suppose that the extra GGI layer has 
> something to do with it.  Type in a URL and sit there twiddling 
> your thumbs for 30 seconds for a text-only page from the same 
> machine it's on.  I stopped waiting after 5 minutes for a page 
> with minimal graphics.  During this time, Arachne was hogging 90% 
> of the CPU cycles.  Ordinarily, Arachne might gobble up to 25% and 
> then die back to 0% as soon as the page is displayed.
> 
> xgalaga - This is a highly graphical action game.  You get about
> one frame every three seconds, so you're already dead before you 
> even see anything coming your way.
> 
> gtv - an mpeg player.  Works fine if you want to step through
> the frames at about 1.5 per second, but at full speed, you might
> as well forget it.
> 
> (-)  Netscape 4.76 - runs fine for user "steve," but complains
> that it can't find a certain 100 dpi font when run by user "crow."  
> Strange.
> 
> (+)  Obviously, since it's the host's soundcard that's in use, the 
> Windows machine won't output any sound from its speakers from those
> apps.  All the sound is coming from the host machine.
> 
> 
>   Doing this over a 10Mbit ethernet is mostly satisfactory.
> Doing it over a modem would be purely for patience-building.  ;-)
> VNC does have more than just a single protocol though, so it
> might be possible to optimize the protocol to whatever type
> of application you're using.
> 
>  - Steve
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 20:31:57 +0100
> From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: C:\ARACHNE\EXAMPLES\TESTDGI.HTM
> 
> Sam wrote:
> >That's OK Bernie.  As I had said before, I respect your right to be
> >different.  You don't have to do what everybody else does.
> 
> The point isn't that *I* do things diffrently than anyone. The point is
> that we can do it (and IMHO should - installing over an old copy of Arachne
> might create problems, or hide them). I still think (like I said in the
> first mail IIRC) that it's good that you found a problem, but you need to
> make a better fix to claim that you've made one IMHO. For instance if I
> think my computer is too slow I could fix that by not using it since I
> wouldn't notice that it's slow then, but I don't think it's a very good
> sollution ;-)
> 
> >  More power
> >to you if you to thine own self be true.  Don't quote me.  I think 
> >the one who first said that was a character in Shakespeare's Hamlet.
> 
> I'm almost embarassed to admit it but I've never seen (or read) Hamlet.
> 
> BTW: I'll try not to post again on this thread ;-)
> //Bernie
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 20:44:39 +0100
> From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: OT: X apps on Win'95
> 
> Steve wrote:
> >Gnome & KDE are Desktop Environments
> >which are even higher level layers atop the window managers.
> 
> Just to complicate things QT is before KDE ;-)
> //Bernie
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 15:12:44 -0500 (EST)
> From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: C:\ARACHNE\EXAMPLES\TESTDGI.HTM
> 
> On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Bernie wrote:
> 
> > The point isn't that *I* do things diffrently than anyone. The point is
> > that we can do it (and IMHO should - installing over an old copy of Arachne
> > might create problems, or hide them). 
> 
>   What this whole thing boils down to is relative vs. absolute
> links. 
> 
>   As with websites, internal links should always be relative,
> and external links (obviously) need to be absolute.  
> 
>   When I moved metamorphosis from delphi.com to twovoyagers.com,
> I simply zipped up the directory on my hard drive, uploaded the
> file to twovoyagers.com, and then unzipped it there. Voila! 
> All links work.
> 
>   This is the same with software packages.  Make all links 
> relative, and it doesn't matter what top level directory they
> reside in.  They all work relative to each other. 
> 
>  - Steve
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 21:11:20 +0100 (CET)
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: (OT) Hello Steve, I need help for kernel-update in loadlin
> 
> Hello,
> I tryed to update my system-kernel but something is going wrong.
> I use loadlin for booting Linux and after updating the kernel
> Yast asked me to copy the new kernel (/boot/vmlinuz) to loadlin?
> I tryed to cp vmlinuz to /mnt/loadlin (after mounting my DOS-drive
> /dev/hda1 to /mnt) but that does not work and in loadlin there is only
> a zimage (the old kernel?). What I am doing wrong?
> Thanks for helping.
> regards, Joerg 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 15:38:06 -0500
> From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: V1.70 (DOS) bug - HTML background colour
> 
> Edenyard wrote:
> > 
> >    Another bug, chaps! In V1.70 (DOS):
> > 
> >    In ARACHNE.CFG, I've set the line 'HTMLbgColor' to TEAL. Now - if I
> > reply to a message, I click on 'reply' in that message and I get a nice
> > teal background. If, however, I want to write an original message from
> > scratch, I click on 'compose message' and the background is light grey.
> > In fact, the background in this instance is always light grey, no matter
> > what HTMLbgColor is set to.
> > 
> >    Can someone else please confirm this before I write to
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks!
> 
> That's not a bug, Ron.
> 
> My limited and probably incorrect understanding of the meaning of "HTML
> Background Color" is it's the default color behind text/images/whatever
> on a HTML page that doesn't specify it's own background color.
> 
> The compose screen, and the related reply and resend screens and the editor
> all specify their own BGcolor as a too damn bright #C4C4C4. 
> If you want TEAL, edit sendmail.ah, and the others as you come across them,
> to set BGCOLOR to whatever you want. I'd suggest #808080. <G>
> 
> 
> - -  Clarence Verge
> - --
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 15:41:07 -0500
> From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: termin won't close in a win95 dos box
> 
> Flip ter Biecht wrote:
> > 
> > Install bugs get rarer by the day, here, but here's one that seems
> > unwilling to surrender...
> > 
> > Arachne runs nicely under win95. Miniterm dials without delay, video runs
> > as in Dos, and so does insight.
> > Not termin.com though. All installs fail to return to arachne, when termin
> > is invoked by alt-h, and when I enter "termin 0x60 after I shell to dos,
> > termin just won't return to the c:\> prompt.
> > 
> > Can anyone confirm this?
> 
> Sorry. Operation under Windows (tm) is not supported.
> 
> - -  Clarence Verge
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 21:36:10 +0200 (EET)
> From: Cristian Burneci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: File manager features
> 
> Christof Lange wrote:
> 
> >b) NDN, DN, DOS Navigator (Clarence mentioned it)
> 
> >There several different versions and similar programme names. I am
> >talking about a Russian programme that is still under development.
> >It contains most of the advanced features offered by CONNECT and
> >still other ones eg. handling of screens and text mode windows. The
> >latest versions are very interesting, but not very stable. So I dare
> >not to replace NC  with this one, yet. The built-in help is in
> >Russian.
> 
> >Even if it is probably not perfect, yet, there is one reason why you
> >should look at this ongoing project from time to time. Obviously the
> >authors intend to provide a support for FTP online file management.
> >In the history information it claims to work under Windows, but I did
> >not get it to work.
> 
> I am using Dos Navigator extensively. Currently it is the only Dos file
> manager installed on both my computers. I find version 1.51 pretty
> stable. And the built-in help is in English (what version are you using?)
> Also it work well under Windows (no LFN support but it can use the
> system clipboard). On a Win9x system "direct disk access" must be
> disabled.
> 
> AFAIK the DN development was discontinued but I haven't visited their site
> since 1999 :-).  
>   
> 
> Cristian Burneci
> DHP Technology SRL
> Bucharest, Romania
> e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 16:13:32 -0500
> From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: V1.70 (DOS) bug - *not* "HTML" background colour
> 
> Ron,
> 
> This isn't a bug.  Default 'HTML background color' is only for HTML
> pages with no bgcolor declared in most cases; setting html bgcolor will
> *NOT* affect the background color of tables ... and the forms you refer
> to *are* tables.
> 
> The mail-handling stuff is separate .htp or .ah pages [those things I
> spend hours on making workable for me]. The color codes are hardwired
> [except for link colors which are part of Arachne selection].
> 
> If you want the background to be "teal" you need to rewrite those pages;
> if you have a decent editor simply do a search/replace for #C0C0C0/teal.
> You'll find the .ah files in system/gui and the .htp files in main
> directory.
> 
> Hope that helps ...
> 
> Hope everyone realizes that everytime Arachne doesn't do what you want,
> that doesn't mean it's a "bug." <G>
> 
> l.d.
> ====
> On Fri, 02 Feb 2001 12:30:24 +0000, "Edenyard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Another bug, chaps! In V1.70 (DOS):
> 
> > In ARACHNE.CFG, I've set the line 'HTMLbgColor' to TEAL. Now - if I
> > reply to a message, I click on 'reply' in that message and I get a nice
> > teal background. If, however, I want to write an original message from
> > scratch, I click on 'compose message' and the background is light grey.
> > In fact, the background in this instance is always light grey, no matter
> > what HTMLbgColor is set to.
> 
> > Can someone else please confirm this before I write to
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks!
> 
> 
> - -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 17:38:10 -0500 (EST)
> From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: (OT) Hello Steve, I need help for kernel-update in loadlin
> 
> On Fri, 2 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > I tryed to update my system-kernel but something is going wrong.
> > I use loadlin for booting Linux and after updating the kernel
> > Yast asked me to copy the new kernel (/boot/vmlinuz) to loadlin?
> 
>   It's been a while since I used loadlin, so I don't know how
> clear my memory will be on this:
> 
>   Loadlin is a DOS program, so let's keep our OS's separate in the
> discussion to keep things straight.
>   If you have a directory, C:\LOADLIN then you need to have
> LOADLIN.EXE and the compressed kernel image there (regardless of 
> whether you name it vmlinuz, bzImage, or linuz-2.218)  
> 
>   Then, IIRC, 
> C:\LOADLIN> loadlin bzimage root=/dev/hda2 ro
> or something very similar boots you to Linux... or there's often
> a LINUX.BAT that you just modify to suit.  I think you're all 
> clear on this part though...
> 
> > I tryed to cp vmlinuz to /mnt/loadlin (after mounting my DOS-drive
> > /dev/hda1 to /mnt) but that does not work and in loadlin there is only
> > a zimage (the old kernel?). What I am doing wrong?
> > Thanks for helping.
> > regards, Joerg 
> 
>   There are usually several directories within /mnt already.
> Usually, at the very least, /cdrom & /floppy.  I always mounted
> my DOS partitions as /mnt/c-dos and /mnt/d-dos.  Then with the
> correct /etc/fstab entries, (mine is like so)
> /dev/hda1  /mnt/c-dos  msdos  user,exec,nodev,nosuid,rw,umask=0 0 0
> it's as simple as 'mount /mnt/c-dos' 
> 
>   Otherwise, you have to do the whole mount command, such as
> 'mnt -w -t <type> /dev/hda1 /mnt/c-dos' where <type> will likely
> be msdos or vfat.
> 
>   Before you copy anything there though, 'cd /mnt/c-dos' and
> 'ls' to make sure it's really mounted the way you think it is.
> If it didn't mount correctly, you'll just see an empty directory.
> Otherwise, you see a directory listing of your C:\ directory,
> and assuming /loadlin already exists there, you can then
> 'cp /<path>/zImage /mnt/c-dos/loadlin/linuz-2.218' or whatever
> you want to call the new image.  Generally, you DON'T want to
> overwrite the old kernel... just in case the new kernel doesn't 
> work the way you hoped it would.  Then you can just use the same
> old command you always did to get back in and try compiling the
> new one again.
> 
>   Alles clar?
> 
>  - Steve
> 
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