Hi
03 Feb 2001, "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
SE> My understanding of smtp servers is that they just relay the mail,
SE> nothing is kept on the server and you can't get anything from the
SE> server, all it does is take the mail you send it and sends it on
SE> its way.
Yes
SE> There is no need for security, imho.
wrong ...
The problem is, WHICH mail they relay ...
usually only a range of IPs are relayed ... GREAT
or you authenticate yourself ... GOOD (though newer clients are needed)
or the SMTPD is misconfigured, and relays everything _BAAAAAAAAAD_ !
SE> Restricting mail delivery from traditional smtp servers is
SE> intolerable to me and should be to others as well.
WHY ??
misconfiguring the SMTP server, so that everybody (including spammers) can
send mail is very bad ...
ORBS for example tries to send mail to itself through the questionable
computer.
If it refuses to deliver the mail ... good.
If it delivers it, than it is blacklisted ...
and this is good. (without that the number of SPAM mails would be HUGE)
There are 2 cases:
1) server not listed in ORBS ... great ... mail comes through
2) server IS listed in ORBS.
in 2) you will get back a message telling you that your mail has not been
forwarded, because the SMTP server was blacklisted.
again 2 choices:
you tell your ISP,
1) ISP 'repairs' the configuration, and is tested again, everything's fine
2) ISP refuses to close down the relaying for everybody
if your ISP chooses 2) than you should really consider changing your ISP.
SE> Imagine if the postal service would only deliver mail from a certain
SE> kind of "secure" mailbox. As long as the message fits the standard
SE> email format, it should just be delivered.
IMHO not ...
It's the other way round.
YOU only accept mail, from people who's name is not on the FBI's most
wanted list.
If a known criminal knocks at your door, than you will not open.
SE> If people don't like the mail they get, they should just throw it
SE> away (delete it) and quit their bitching about spam.
I don't think so.
SE> Sam Ewalt
CU, Ricsi
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