On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 21:07:01 +0200 (CEST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter)
wrote:
> Hi
> 10 Jul 2001, "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> SH> I hardly ever hear of any prosecutions. Why don't they crack
>>> SH> down and put a stop to this crime?
>>> The *REAL* crime is that this person called gbill sells his shit
>>> further! Why don't they crack down on him ?
> SH> Good question.
> SH> They ought to bring a lawsuit against him based on product safety.
> good idea ;)
>>> SH> Oftentimes a culprit who can be clearly identified will send
>>> SH> a virus to everyone on his mailing list.
>>> either he is also infected, and the virus sends itself further, or
>>> the culprit is *NOT* identifieable easily and is usually cloaked
>>> VERY well.
> SH> You are saying that viruses infect other computers. This is false.
> not really
> SH> The computer operators who have allowed their machines to become
> SH> infected with the viruses will infect other computers.
> you are able to go into a shop and buy a computer.
> Without a license.
> How should you know what a virus is, and what to do not to get one ?
The computer comes with an owner's manual. You are expected
to RTFM, just as you would do with any other equipment that
you might buy and you are unfamiliar with. In this country
one can go into a shop and without a license he may buy cars,
guns, chain saws, or many other things that one may use to cause
horrendous damage if mis-handled. You are expected to RTFM if
you don't know what you are doing.
> SH> What you have said is equivalent to saying that guns murder people.
> they do ... with the help of insane people.
> SH> This is also false. People who mis-use guns murder people.
> every use of a gun is mis-use
What about dispatching a rabid or vicious animal? What about
defending oneself against an assailant when escape is not possible
and when non-deadly force is ineffective? What about eliminating
pests such as rats and dangerous critters such as poisonous snakes?
What about stopping a dangerously operated vehicle by shooting
bullets through the tires or engine block or radiator? (This sport
is recommended only for cops and casual heroes such as Clint Eastwood.)
What about shooting up flares as a distress signal? What about hunting?
What about recreational target shooting?
> but the difference is, that it is very hard to kill somebody without
> noticing.
People who have AIDS kill a lot of people without noticing.
> But it is easy to get infected without noticing !
Same as with people with AIDS. Those who indulge in high risk
behavior should get themselves tested frequently. People who use
computers on line should run frequent virus scans.
> SH> Computer users are also to blame because they are not forced to "sieg
> SH> heil" and to goose-step to the orders of the Culprit-In-Chief.
> but people are dumb ... very dumb
> (look at the elections in austria where the idiotic FPOE got 28%,
> or even worse America were an illiterate, gun-lobby-controlled idiot is
> president ....)
I don't know much about Austrian politics, so I won't comment on that.
As far as US politics are concerned, it was time for a change of parties.
Look how badly the previous administration screwed up. The so-called
gun lobby gets almost all of its funding support in the form of
contributions from ordinary citizens, not from the gun manufacturing
industry. Most Americans are proud of the fact that our most powerful
lobby organization, the NRA, is controlled mainly by ordinary folks
instead of by some major corporate special interests.
> SH> Resistance is a quite viable option for everyone.
> don't forhet that thinking hurts ...
> SH> Any product or service that we don't absolutely need may be most
> SH> successfully boycotted.
> but using not really necessary services can be very handy.
> (nobody needs HTML mails, but some say that they like the additional
> capabilities like colors and different fonts.
> And I have also opened ftp and telnet in addition to scp and ssh ...
> because I want to be able to access my computer also from places without
> scp/ssh clients. Although I know that these services transmit passwords in
> clear)
> it's allways a matter of risk compared to gain.
This is true. Most people don't know how to stack up the comparison
tables. Therefore they can't make a qualified judgement.
Sam Heywood
