Sam,

Perhaps a little further explanation on access to Compuserve would be 
appropriate.  Compuserve started out as a bulletin board service (BBS) which 
was accessible using *any* communications program as everything on Compuserve 
was pure text and *fast*. .  It developed into the most diverse BBS of all of 
its competitors with a multitude of fora.  E-mail could be exchanged only 
between Compuserve subscribers and there was no access to the Internet.  
Subscribers to the service were assigned prisoner type "User ID" numbers.  
Like many others, I used ProComm to access Compuserve.

As windoze entered the scene, Compuserve started going to a graphical 
interface called HMI.  You could still use a communication program to access 
Compuserve, but the fora that went to (were pressured to change to) the 
graphical HMI interface were no longer accessible to communication programs.  
Compuserve brought out a couple of programs, DOSCIM and WINCIM (DOS/Windows 
Compuserve Information Manager) which could be used to access the fora with 
HMI graphics.  The last version of DOSCIM was, 2.6 (which, I think is still 
available).  From then on, Compuserve programs were strictly windoze 
programs.  You still could/can access Compuserve using any communications 
program, however, forum access was/is very limited.

At the present time, I can still access Compuserve by using ProComm, but 
there are very few fora available.  Billing information is available, as well 
as dial-up access numbers, but most of the fora have changed to a relay to 
the internet.

AOL, which was a very poor, distant cousin of Compuserve in the BBS area 
started flooding the country with floppies that had programs that would 
permit easy access to AOL and people started loading these and subscribing to 
AOL ala the Gilette Safety Razor technique --- give away the razor and make 
money selling the blades.  Compuserve ignored this activity by AOL as 
Compuserve *was* the premier BBS with more fora and subscribers than all the 
other BBSes combined.  When Compuserve finally realized what was happening, 
it was too late.

At one point, Compuserve announced that existing users could register *real* 
names and could use either the real name or the user ID number.  I registered 
a *real* name, but when the conversion took place, it was announced that you 
could use the real name only if you committed to an HMI interface.  That I 
declined to do, hence, I am known as 73527,1356 on Compuserve.

Classic Compuserve, as far as I know, will permit you to access Compuserve 
using either a communications program, DOS/WINCIM or any of the subsequent 
Compuserve programs, although I don't know about Compuserve 2000.  I also 
believe that there are several payment plans.  Information on them should be 
available via the internet (www.compuserve.com "GO RATES").  IIRC, the basic 
difference in the rates is the number of "free" hours that can be used, with 
additional minutes charged additionally.  Before I went to the flat rate plan 
(unlimited hours) and was just getting onto the internet, I had a couple of 
months when my Compuserve bill was in excess of $150.

Hope that this provides you with additional answers.

Roger Turk
Tucson, Arizona  USA

Sam Heywood wrote:

. > Just for the sake of curiosity, can one who has "Compuserve Classic"
. > also use Compuserve 2000 or Compuserve 4.XXXX or greater for no extra
. > charge?  Do all the access numbers for Compuserve 2000 and Compuserve
. > 4.XXX or greater also work for Compuserve Classic?

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