Mithgol the Webmaster wrote: > > Hello, that's me again <grin>
Hello, Mithgol ;-) > http://mithgol.complife.net/Master/Bug-list/index.htm is where > the buglist is located. All former bug demoes URL are obsolete now. > There are ten demonstrated bugs; I will attempt to comment on these "bugs" from a different viewpoint. First, I repeat, unsupported protocols are not a big deal - especially Java and Flash. What we NEED are _hitmen_ to go after the twits that USE these nasty and annoying extensions to HTML. I have exactly the same opinion of javascript - it is exceedingly wasteful of bandwidth for no profit except for expansion of the page designer's ego - but my feelings about the way it should be treated differ from the above. It should be safely ignored EXCEPT for a very few functions that may be handled in a simple and minimal manner that lets us navigate. In fact, I personally think most of it should be STRIPPED at download time or at first parse so we don't waste time/space on it when we return. Second, I'm using Netscape to view your bugdemos. Ok, they are supposed to be demos of Arachne bugs, but if they don't look reasonable in NS what are they demonstrating ? Third, I'll only do the NON-Arachne portion of the tests right now. :) #1: Ok, this HTML section looks fine (as intended) in NS 2.02. I loooked at your .GIF and can't believe Arachne would do that. I'll try it on my install tonite. #2: Ok. the ampersand test looks the same in my browser as you show for NS4.78, but how the heck can you demo what it looks like in 4.78 if I'm viewing with 2.02 ? I see: 'Toccata&Fuga D Minor'. Is that right ? I agree the effect is different with Arachne, but if you don't have the terminating ";" what's the point ? Who's on first ? #3: The CSS complaint. The long hyperlink used for demo is just a long link in my browser. The image you have showing the effect in Arachne looks ok to me, but what do *I* know - CSS is unnecessary fluff to me. The second animated one DOES look confusing (BTW your small inserted images are an EXCELLENT idea) - but ??? #4: No need to enumerate any CSS1 malfunctions. I think you miss the point of a simple DOS-BASED browser. Although I, and surely others, do appreciate your efforts we don't need another NS/IE - we need a working alternative. #5: Middle does not center. Hmmm. What "table above" is the demo for this ? I saw no centering of anything on my screen in NS2.02 and the source did not seem to have anything that asked for a "MIDDLE" Valignment. While on the subject of source, your demo is a bit FAT with js. Since I have js turned off, nothing you wasted your time on there could impress me EXCEPT the waste. I couldn't resist that comment. Sorry.<g> Back to the "middle". There is a list of Arachne supported HTML in text format shipped with Arachne. Is MIDDLE in it ? I've never seen it used. #6: Pre-aligned right. The first half of the page WAS aligned right in NS and the last half was centered. I'll look with Arachne later. #7: Affects you more than most of us. ;-) The problem is one of priorities. I don't know who made the .APM. Maybe one of the users in eastern Europe could help with these .APMs ? #8:"The solid bright vertical line along the right margin of the image is, of course, Arachne-specific and does not appear,for example,in Netscape." What solid bright line ? There is NO solid bright vertical line showing in your 700% magnified image on MY Netscape screen. There is, however, a known bug in image rendering/positioning where SOME types of image are shifted one pixel to the right and/or truncated. See: http://caverge.arachne.cz/myfiles/xperimental/imagetst.gif and: http://caverge.arachne.cz/myfiles/xperimental/chopped.gif Michael doesn't seem to care about this right now. #9: GIF fake transparency. Hmmm. Your image still looks dirty to me in Netscape, but there was no transparency visible. Maybe there is a real bug in the rendering here, but I'll reserve judgement until I see it in my Arachne. BTW, if there IS a bug here, it's not likely to get fixed.:( #10:I can't (and won't) test this one. Smooth scrolling turns off my use of the cursor keys in Arachne cuz I refuse to use a two key cursor. #11:I think that's just bad HTML. Sorry the above seems so negative. I'm trying to give you a serious response as I'm fully aware that the new complainer on the block gets less attention than they deserve. I know this because I was a newbie here once and am now a newbie on another list where I'm being ignored. <G> I see that you are making every effort to be taken seriously and we DO need to be stirred up a bit right now. Thanks for your time and efforts. More later. - Clarence Verge -- - Help stamp out FATWARE. As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/ - The internet is infected - Windows is a VIRUS !! --
