Hi sheywood!
02 Jan 2003, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> SH> As most of you all know, Arachne and other normal internet
>> SH> browsers do not come with the totally unecessary and
>> SH> undesireable feature of having a "browser upload" function like
>> SH> the one that is incorporated into the bloatware browsers MSIE
>> SH> and NetScape.
>> first how many NORMAL browsers do you know that do NOT incorporate
>> this trivial feature ? second it is not only incorporated into MSIE
>> and NS, but also into mozilla, netscape, lynx ...
s> I have not found such a feature in Opera.
I have just tried it ... it is there ... (in ancient opera 5)
s> Lynx386 doesn't have it.
works just great with this version.
Lynx Version 2.8.4dev.7 (03 Aug 2000)
s> The Phoenix browser, being a compact version of Mozilla doesn't have
s> it.
Phoenix *DOES* support it !!!
So every browser I tried supports it correctly.
except arachne
s> The earlier versions of NetScape and MSIE did not have it.
they have it ... at least NS 2.02+ (haven't used earlier versions)
I'm sure IE has it loooooooooooong time as well, but I have never used it.
s> In the early days of NetScape and MSIE people were doing FTP.
But the browsers still supported the RFC HTTP upload !
>> SH> When I write to the web site tech support people to ask if I can
>> SH> simply do FTP instead, they answer with a resounding "NO".
>> too much work for them.
>> They need to set up a FTP server with write rights for all accounts
>> they have. and furthermore FTP is pure CRAP. (the protocol is badly
>> designed, and there are many security risks in the FTP daemons.)
s> Are the security risks with FTP any greater than with Telnet?
yes
s> With FTP and with Telnet you have to send your password in the clear.
yes, but FTP has additionally to sending everything in the clear, a very error
prone protocol.
I wrote this already by saying that there are many security risks in the FTP
software.
s> I use SFTP for servers which allow it. SFTP encrypts the password.
good
s> the incorporation of the HTTP upload feature as just another plot to
s> increase browser bloat.
should not be ... arachne has everything to handle it ...
so implementing it should be easy.
s> Sam Heywood
CU, Ricsi
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