Some webmasters do listen and are willing to change things to give
access to Arachne users like the webmaster of amsat.org.

The city of Eindhoven is another example, but mostly you are laughed at
and advised to buy a 'real' computer.

Regards, Bastiaan




On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 09:02:19 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote:

> On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 16:35:50 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:

>> The 'sad truth' is that we are never going to change it for as long as
>> opinions such as the one you have just expressed continue to prevail.

>> There is only one way to change this situation.

>> And that is the continue to persevere with our insistance that
>> webmasters adhere to the anybrowser principle.

>> If we do as you suggest and simply continue to 'upgrade' to meet the
>> new 'standards' that are being shoved down our throats.....

>> Then we have lost the battle without even firing a shot. :(((

> Glenn, I agree 100% with your sentiments, but I must be a realist and
> say that if every Arachnemane were to take up the issue, write to
> congressmen, and fight this battle on every front for all our waking
> hours, we would still get virtually nowhere.

> Like it or not, Windoze and its dumbo users are like an avalanche,
> taking over the world. Knowing we are in the right will NOT stop the
> spread of all these fancy tricks that only Windoze users can do.

> OTOH, if we have to go down, let's go down fighting!

> Have you any material suggestions of what we can do to "fire shots" at
> the people setting up these Arachne-unfriendly sites?

> Unfortunately suggesting in this list that Windozy web page designers
> not even vaguely associated with this list should read the notes at a
> website they are not interested in is not going to crack it.

> Most of them will say: "Isn't it time you updated to a sensible
> computer?"

> OTOH I am currently in correspondence with the webmaster of one site
> that is supposed to work in text-only mode, but won't do so with
> Arachne. The webmaster says that he believes the problem is cookies. I
> _do_ have cookies enabled, and they have worked with other sites.

> He is continuing to look into the matter, so I guess this is an
> indication that we may be able to win a few battles at least!

> Greg

> -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/

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