Hi,

let me add a couple of thoughts here, not offending :)

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:38:13 +0200
Matthias-Christian Ott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Daniel Zilli schrieb:
> 
> > Dear friends,
> >
> > Is a pleasure talk with you.
> >
> > I am Daniel Zilli, an active member from Brazil Open Source community. I
> > am specialized in Free Software and Linux Operation System with tree
> > books released.
> >
> > During the last two months I am being using and analise the Arch Linux
> > distro. To be honest with you, I am little amazing about the Arch.
> > During this two months of test the Arch showed be a stable, simple and
> > efficient distro. I am really do not see big different between Arch and
> > the big players of market.
> >
> > So, with intention to help this distro become more and more mature, I am
> > will draw some points that can help the distro give a big step to the
> > hall of fame.
Thanks :)

> >
> > 1) Arch need urgent a new installer! We know that the current works, but
> > this today is not enough. We need an intuitive, easy and efficient
> > installer. If you think a little, we can see that the new users
> > make the opinion about a distro during the install process. So, if the
> > install process is difficult, they will think that the distro is
> > difficult too. Think about this!
> > If you allow me, I can show to you guys a new
> > installer in a fews days. (now you know about my syntax errors :-) ).
> > Plus. I can add support to i18n in this installer too.
What does the devs think about the installer:
http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=10142&page=8
See Aureliens statement, contributions are welcome, but note the opinions
quoted there, we have reasons for the installer. To sum it up a bit, users
who "survive" the installer will probably be way better prepared for
adminstering their system. But hey, maybe your installer will blow our minds :)

> >
> > 2) One thing that made me very happy in the Arch, was the package 
> > manager. Absolutally pacman is one of the best. But, has just one big 
> > defect. The extension. The extension "pkg.tar.gz" is too long! The 
> > most famous package manager using short extension like rpm, deb and 
> > tgz. Look the difference:
> >
> > bash-3.0-3.pkg.tar.gz
> > bash-3.0-3.rpm
> > bash-3.0-3.deb
> > bash-3.0-3.tgz
> >
> > Be more direct is essential. We know that pacman is a tar.gz based, but
> > we are not force to use tar.gz in the extension. And more. This 
> > extension can be confuse to the new user that see "tar.gz" in the end. 
> > Someones will not associate with a package manager. My suggestion is 
> > use a new extension like "pac".
From my point of view, these are cosmetics ...  and I know this is how many
people make lots of money. But see your argument, tar.gz confuses user with
gzipped tarballs? A package _is_ a  gzipped tarball! And it can be opened,
investigated and manipulated by any tar capable application. Moreover, the
mime-type is automatically detected correctly by most applications.

> > 3) Arch need more press. If the people don't know about the Arch, how
> > will they use ? We need that Arch become famous. Why? To bring more
> > people to use and contribute to the distro. For this happen here my
> > suggestion:
Well, if you have a masterplan for this :)

> > For now is that!
Thanks for your interest

-tobbi

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