On 6/16/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >
> > Quoting a whole thread from the start is useless if it doesn't have
> > anything to do with the thing you're replying to. If people want to read
> > the whole thread, they can read the archives.
> >
> 
> Hey gang;
> 
> Here is an example of a cut and quote. Or if you will, and OVERLY-cut and
> quote followed by my bottom posting.
> 

well then too bad - some people will just never learn (or *bother*) to
quote properly. What can u do with them? Burn them at the stake?

And can u ever stop them. The point is not the method, - but the
method *plus person* that makes the final email output good. Of course
when we/i recommend whatever methods of quoting here, we do so with a
certain basic assumption that the person we're recommending it to will
be intelligent, or honest enough, to be able to do it properly.

So do stupid people/evil people misusing a good email convention to do
things make that email convention wrong? Should we rule out that
method then, just because these people misuse, or abuse it then? Used
well, a good thing can be good. Used badly, any good or bad thing will
always be bad. Case in point, the power and flexibility of Linux. So
there. End of discussion, i hope?

Going by the same reasoning, all guns are bad, all fire is bad, etc. etc. etc...


> The point ? - > If bottom posting encourages cutting text to create a
> quote, it is sometimes arrogant to be cutting anything. i.e How do you
> know if you have cut enough? What if your interpretation of what was being
> said is wrong, and you cut too much ?
> 

well u just use ur common sense. And if anybody is motivated enough to
want to find out about the original discussion, they can then (as has
been mentioned) refer to the archives.


> Further I have seen intentional cutting of text to cloud, or worse, change
> the original meaning(s).
> 

so? can u stop them anyway, if their intention is to do the same? And
again, anybody motivated enough to dig into the matter will be able to
check the archives.

> 
> Perhaps it is best if we not try to dictate any particular method of
> interaction.
> 

this is where i learn to quote Jason Chu's signature, slightly modified -

"If you can take it, things will just happen.  If you cannot take it,
things will still happen."

-jf

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