Bozhidar Batsov wrote:
Hello,

With the upcoming release of the new GNOME 2.12, I want to say a couple of things... 1. Arch is said to do not have a default desktop environment - even so, I was left under the impression that a lot more work goes into building quality KDE packages than GNOME's, which is somewhat acceptable as I'm aware of the fact that most people use KDE anyway. But you could at least personalize GNOME with Arch splashsreens and default wallpaper the way you do it with KDE. You could include be bug reporting tool in GNOME's menu and so on. I noticed that even Xfce was more personalized than GNOME by default... Than spend some time verifying that all is working at least half as good as it should, for KDE runs perfectly in Arch in most ways, but GNOME has many issues...

In what way does gnome have many issues? I run gnome and it works perfectly. And why do you assume most people use KDE (unk!) and (*sigh*) therefore is better maintained? And the maintainers should keep their hands over the defaults the developers chose. To hell with personalisation, time should be spent on testing packages instead of personalising them, everyone changes it anyway.

2. Why is the KDE package installing all sorts of useless apps and GNOME without the gnome-extras package is barely useful... I for example know how to take care of things, but many user might not know...

Have you seen the difference between gnome and gnome-extra? I think you should revise, gnome-extra has alot of usefull applications. gnome is the package group to get gnome working, and gnome-extra is just an addon group with stuff like gpdf, in fact, most things to be productive.

3.If the maintainers are too busy with other stuff to produce quality builds of GNOME maybe we should start a small project - something like FreeRock and DropLine to provide the de facto standard GNOME for Arch Linux...

That's all from me folks. I'd like to congratulate all the Arch core developers and maintainers which with they work have proven that they may be outnumbered but they are never outgunned ;)

Best Regards,
Bozhidar

P.S. I still hope that someone can give me some advise as to what is the problem with my current 2.10.2 installation of GNOME, if it isn't bad packaging...

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