From doing alot of support in the irc channel I would be more under the
assumption arch has more gnome users then kde. To really break it down,
most of what I see is people using something other then gnome/kde and
using gnome as a secondary. As for the quality, I have been pretty happy
with the installed version of gnome.
Maveric-i686-
Bozhidar Batsov wrote:
RedShift wrote:
Bozhidar Batsov wrote:
Hello,
With the upcoming release of the new GNOME 2.12, I want to say a
couple of things...
1. Arch is said to do not have a default desktop environment - even
so, I was left under the impression that a lot more work goes into
building quality KDE packages than GNOME's, which is somewhat
acceptable as I'm aware of the fact that most people use KDE anyway.
But you could at least personalize GNOME with Arch splashsreens and
default wallpaper the way you do it with KDE. You could include be
bug reporting tool in GNOME's menu and so on. I noticed that even
Xfce was more personalized than GNOME by default... Than spend some
time verifying that all is working at least half as good as it
should, for KDE runs perfectly in Arch in most ways, but GNOME has
many issues...
In what way does gnome have many issues? I run gnome and it works
perfectly. And why do you assume most people use KDE (unk!) and
(*sigh*) therefore is better maintained? And the maintainers should
keep their hands over the defaults the developers chose. To hell with
personalisation, time should be spent on testing packages instead of
personalising them, everyone changes it anyway.
2. Why is the KDE package installing all sorts of useless apps and
GNOME without the gnome-extras package is barely useful... I for
example know how to take care of things, but many user might not
know...
Have you seen the difference between gnome and gnome-extra? I think
you should revise, gnome-extra has alot of usefull applications.
gnome is the package group to get gnome working, and gnome-extra is
just an addon group with stuff like gpdf, in fact, most things to be
productive.
3.If the maintainers are too busy with other stuff to produce
quality builds of GNOME maybe we should start a small project -
something like FreeRock and DropLine to provide the de facto
standard GNOME for Arch Linux...
That's all from me folks. I'd like to congratulate all the Arch core
developers and maintainers which with they work have proven that
they may be outnumbered but they are never outgunned ;)
Best Regards,
Bozhidar
P.S. I still hope that someone can give me some advise as to what is
the problem with my current 2.10.2 installation of GNOME, if it
isn't bad packaging...
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1.Runs perfectly - as many things in life that is rather relative, but
I've had my hands on GNOME in several distros and even FreeBSD and
everywhere else I had better exprience with GNOME, but none if this OS
had evenpart of Arch's style ;) I'll reinstall GNOME, maybe the fault
is me, but I saw some other users complaining as well for the quality
of the builds and decided that maybe something was wrong indeed with
them...
As to KDE having far more users than all the other DE - I cannot
believe that someone questions that... For the past several years KDE
has always won the Deskop of the year award which is decided by users
votes and wins it with huge difference 70% KDE, 20%GNOME and 10% to
all the others... And on the subject that Fedora and Ubuntu are ranked
3rd and 1st is distrowatch, I might add that they all the other in top
20 except CentOS and Debian bias towards KDE...
Of course I've seen the difference between gnome and gnome-extras -
but gnome without gnome-ternimal and gedit by default???But then again
maybe I'm wrong - I do not claim to be an expert on the subject - I
just express my opinion...
About the personalization - I do personalize it myself ( Batman style,
hate distro personalizations anyway) but it really pissed me off to
see that it seem more attention was given to KDE and Xfce than to my
beloved GNOME. You must excuse me for that - when it comes to GNU I
kind of lose my temper...
Anyway I'm looking forward to the upcoming GNOME 2.12 ... May the
Source be with You ALWAYS ;)
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