> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>>Bozhidar Batsov wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>1.Runs perfectly - as many things in life that is rather relative,
>>>> but
>>>> I've had my hands on GNOME in several distros and even FreeBSD and
>>>>everywhere else I had better exprience with GNOME, but none if this
>>>> OS
>>>> had evenpart of Arch's style ;) I'll reinstall GNOME, maybe the
>>>> fault is me, but I saw some other users complaining as well for the
>>>> quality of the builds and decided that maybe something was wrong
>>>> indeed with
>>>>them...
>>>>As to KDE having far more users than all the other DE - I cannot
>>>> believe that someone questions that... For the past several years KDE
>>>> has always won the Deskop of the year award which is decided by users
>>>> votes and wins it with huge difference 70% KDE, 20%GNOME and 10% to
>>>> all the others... And on the subject that Fedora and Ubuntu are
>>>> ranked
>>>> 3rd and 1st is distrowatch, I might add that they all the other in
>>>>top  20 except CentOS and Debian bias towards KDE...
>>>>Of course I've seen the difference between gnome and gnome-extras -
>>>> but gnome without gnome-ternimal and gedit by default???But then
>>>> again
>>>> maybe I'm wrong - I do not claim to be an expert on the subject - I
>>>>just express my opinion...
>>>>About the personalization - I do personalize it myself ( Batman
>>>> style,
>>>> hate distro personalizations anyway) but it really pissed me off to
>>>>see that it seem more attention was given to KDE and Xfce than to my
>>>> beloved GNOME. You must excuse me for that - when it comes to GNU I
>>>> kind of lose my temper...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>I think the difference in their "treatment" is a reflection of how
>>> they are provided.  Kde comes in big chunks, gnome comes in small
>>> chunks, as I understand it.  tpowa maintains kde and JGC maintains
>>> gnome - as I understand, due to upstream issues, gnome is a bit more
>>> of a hassle to pkg, they like changing their mind about how they want
>>> to do things I believe.  I believe that it is the solution of these
>>> upstream issues that drains time away from customization and extensive
>>> polish.  You must
>>> know that the slackware devs, for example, completely gave up trying
>>> to maintain gnome pkgs?  That seems pretty indicative to me.
>>>
>>>Phil
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Excellent point. Thanks for making note of it.
>>
>>Very best regards;
>>
>>Bob Finch
>>
>>
>>
>>
> I hope you read my request on that post for it is not entirely true -
> after all Patrick is just one man and his abilities though huge are not
> limitless... He's doing great work with Slack though... And yes GNOME is
>  truly harder to maintain than KDE - that is a fact...

Actually Phil's comments more or less EXACTLY mirror what Patrick has been
saying for a long time. And also why he (Patrick) said he was content to
no longer include it. Perhaps you should read what Patrick himself says
again.

Very best regards;

Bob Finch

>
>>>>Anyway I'm looking forward to the upcoming GNOME 2.12 ... May the
>>>> Source be with You ALWAYS ;)
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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