I just received an answer from marc[i1], one of the maintainers of archlinux.fr . Here is his answer, followed by a translated version (approximative, I tried to keep as near as possible to the author message) :
"Bonjour, Hi, C'est au médiateur que je m'adresse au nom de tous les admins d'archlinux.fr. I'm corresponding to the mediator in the name of all the admins of archlinux.fr. Après quelques insultes, Benoitc vient finalement de poser sur la ML des conditions pour un rassemblement des deux sites en ces termes: After some insults, Benoitc just expressed on the mailing-list the conditions for a merge of both websites : "I'm ready to link to their repo and gallery if they merge their current content with archlinuxfr.org, that's all. So they could continue their original projects without be disturbing. Seems they can now have their own server. For sure I can't give them any password or admin level on archlinuxfr.org. I don't trust them." Outre l'ambiance désagréable, ces conditions posent des problèmes techniques. Il est par exemple évident qu'un accès en admin est nécessaire et que nous ne pourrons travailler ensemble que dans un climat de confiance. In addition to an unpleasant atmosphere, those conditions bring technical problems. For example, it is obvious that an admin access is necessary and that we won't be able to cooperate without a climate of trust. Pour cette raison, nous demandons que la modération débute en remettant à plat toutes ces conditions et surtout qu'elle se fasse avec non pas avec benoitc mais avec les autres administrateurs d'archlinuxfr.org avec qui nous avons toujours entretenu des rapports très cordiaux. De notre côté, les administrateurs qui étaient à l'origine de la séparation seront mis à l'écart des négociations afin que le débat aille de l'avant sans tenir compte du passé. For this reason, we're asking that the moderation starts by taking out these conditions, and most of all that the discussion isn't done directly with Benoitc but with the other admistrators of archlinuxfr.org with whom we always had very cordials relationships. On our side, the administrators that were in charge of the separation and the creation of archlinux.fr won't take part in the mediation process to make the discussion progress without consideration of what happened in the past. Nous souhaitons trouver rapidement une solution à ce conflit. Sincères salutations." We wish to rapidly find a solution to this conflict. Best wishes. " That being said, it is now clear that both side are willing to take part in a discussion to find a solution, within or outside a mediation process. So here is what I'm proposing : 1 - Since Benoit seems opposed to a mediation, I'm proposing that the discussion is done directly between both sides. 2- Both sides nominate 2 members responsible to take the lead of the discussion. The reason we need two members is to avoid the process being slowed down in case of absence of a member. The "leaders" will be announced on the Arch mailing-list OR an announce is made that the side doesn't want to take part in the discussion process. 3- Both sides "leaders" of the discussions communicate with each other to determine where and how the discussion will take place. Here I'm proposing the discussion is made public, but not on the main Arch mailing-list since it will be in French and that it's not really the best place for it. A suitable place will need to be found (Google group maybe ?). 4- For my part, I'm proposing to act as an observer. My role would be limited to informing the Arch team when substantial progress or decisions are made, and limit my interventions only when the discussion is drifting away or entering in a deadlock. I also ask both side to signify if they accept me as an observer or not. In the case of a rejection by either side, another observer would need to be found. I know that might seem a bit complicated for nothing, but I think it is necessary to avoid falling again in fights and insults. I think we have a good start here. So let's get things straight from both side, and then start the work. This is the reputation of the french community that is at stake. Sincerely yours, Leif Thande _______________________________________________ arch mailing list [email protected] http://archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch
