I keep seeing questions going back and forth on this issue.  As I understand it 
two things are trying to be accomplished, first ARIN issued resources are to be 
primarily used on equipment located within the ARIN region, and second there 
needs to be some sort of legal presence with contact information in the ARIN 
region that can be kept in the ARIN database for everyone including law 
enforcement to access.  Can't the policy simply say there must be a legal 
presence and the resources must be used within the ARIN region, and that 
resources can be de-allocated if either ceases to be true?  

The elegance of the Internet is that it can expand an organization's reach - 
including across RIR boundaries, so who cares if a web server or a virtual 
server (or whatever) that is physically located in the ARIN region is access by 
tons of folks outside the region.   There just needs to be a legal presence and 
contact information to go along with that allocation.  Trying to apply some 
test such as majority or plurality will just cause unnecessary complexity and 
the current policies are complex enough without needlessly adding to it.  My 2 
cents.

Steven Ryerse
President
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of John Curran
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 1:16 PM
To: Frank Bulk
Cc: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2013-6: Allocation of IPv4 and IPv6 
Address Space to Out-of-region Requestors - Revised

On Oct 8, 2013, at 9:26 AM, Frank Bulk <[email protected]>
wrote:

> John,
> 
> What if Acme Hosting, Inc., located in the Silicon Valley, found a 
> niche offering virtualized servers for Asian customers who want to 
> have their Internet-based services hosted more closely to the North American 
> market.
> 
> Acme Hosting and their infrastructure are clearly in the U.S., but 
> their customers are not in the ARIN region.

Their physical infrastructure would only qualify for modest address space in 
accordance with policy, and this would not change with the addition of 
virtualized servers on existing equipment.

> Does the policy, as currently written, preclude Acme Hosting from 
> requesting more address space as their Asian customer base grows?

Under current policy, they may request additional addresses as their customers 
grow.  Under the current revised policy text, we would not consider their 
customers who are not in region.  This side effect (hosting companies not being 
able to consider customers who are out of region) may or may not be desirable, 
but is understandable given the additional of customer region as criteria.

FYI,
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN

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