I am glad you presented the dark pools as an example. Let’s look at how much harm the dark pools and high frequency trading have done and the role of the parasites that profit from this environment and consider whether we want to legitimize or encourage such a thing for internet numbers.
I highly recommend the book “Flash Boys” for those who have not read it. Owen On Jun 6, 2014, at 10:40 AM, John Von Stein <[email protected]> wrote: > My 2-cents on this thread … > > Having been in the commodity/derivative/equity trading businesses for 25 > years before starting an ISP I concur that a Market will likely evolve for US > IPv4. The fundamentals of Supply and Demand for IPv4 will prevail. It’s > probably happening already, akin to the “dark pools” of off-exchange trading > that were siphoning large amounts of trading volume away from the regulated > equity exchanges. This community, including ARIN, can either embrace and > guide this tectonic shift from single source of IP (ARIN) to a Market of IP > address suppliers / consumers from the playing field or else be left with > absolute control over essentially an empty bag of allocations and watching > the aftermarket activity from the sideline. > > Thank you, > John W. Von Stein > > <image001.jpg> > > 102 NE 2nd Street > Suite 136 > Boca Raton, FL 33432 > Office: 561-288-6989 > www.QxCcommunications.com > > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended > solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Steven Ryerse > Sent: Friday, June 6, 2014 1:26 PM > To: Michael Peddemors; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Simple question to simplify the rhetoric.. > > Of course those are not the only two options. > > We could choose C: Open up the market by removing needs testing along the > lines of what RIPE is doing and let the market work that out. > > We could also D: Embrace and join the private market that has sprung up > outside of ARIN and legitimize it and work closely with it at the policy > level. (This has the added benefit of improving the accuracy of the > Database.) > > There are probably other options. > > Steven Ryerse > President > 100 Ashford Center North, Suite 110, Atlanta, GA 30338 > 770.656.1460 - Cell > 770.399.9099- Office > > ℠ Eclipse Networks, Inc. > Conquering Complex Networks℠ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Michael Peddemors > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 11:33 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Simple question to simplify the rhetoric.. > > On 14-06-06 08:21 AM, John Curran wrote: > > On Jun 6, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Michael Peddemors <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> Why don't we first of all all express our simple votes.. > >> > >> A) Leave the current system alone, and let the free market work it > >> out > >> B) Enpower ARIN with more abilities to 'judge' who gets the remaining > >> space > > > > Michael - > > > > In particular, there are the requirements for receiving space from the > > regional > > free pool versus requirements for being a recipient of a market > > transfer. > > Understood of course, however I believe a consensus or even a productive > conversation in either case can't be had, unless the community first agrees > in principle to a fundamental change in ARIN's role, where it is transfer's > or allocation of new IP(s). > > > > -- > "Catch the Magic of Linux..." > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Michael Peddemors, President/CEO LinuxMagic Inc. > Visit us at http://www.linuxmagic.com @linuxmagic > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > A Wizard IT Company - For More Info http://www.wizard.ca "LinuxMagic" a > Registered TradeMark of Wizard Tower TechnoServices Ltd. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > 604-682-0300 Beautiful British Columbia, Canada > > This email and any electronic data contained are confidential and intended > solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. > Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely > those of the author and are not intended to represent those of the company. > _______________________________________________ > PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public > Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. > _______________________________________________ > PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public > Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. > _______________________________________________ > PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues.
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