Hi Steven,
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Steven Ryerse <[email protected]> wrote: > There are several folks (like me) who want to ditch the needs test and > there are several folks who don't want to ditch them. I take it your > position is that the folks who want to keep needs tests should somehow > prevail in this argument without much or any change, and those of us who > wish to ditch them should just accept the status quo with needs tests. In > other words you win and we lose! > > I saw a lot of folks comment here recently who want to at least loosen > needs tests on the smaller block sizes, many many more than I've ever seen > before. Since it is obvious a sizable portion of this community desires a > change toward loosening policies, why is it that you persist in standing in > the way of compromise? > As for me, I think relaxing (not eliminating needs assessment at a /24 boundary is plenty of compromise. See Andrew Dul's most recent mail for possible scenario's. -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel > > There comes a time when fair is fair - and small organizations are > routinely discriminated against because of our small size and not so deep > pockets. There is a lot of anger out there over the unfairness of these > existing policies. It should be just as easy for us to get resources as it > was for T-Mobile and others. I call on all members of this community to at > least come to a compromise. After all the world hasn't ended for RIPE with > their changes - and it won't end here either if fairness is put back into > the policies so that small organizations can get the resources they need > too! > > Steven Ryerse > President > 100 Ashford Center North, Suite 110, Atlanta, GA 30338 > www.eclipse-networks.com > 770.656.1460 - Cell > 770.399.9099- Office > > ℠ Eclipse Networks, Inc. > Conquering Complex Networks℠ > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Owen DeLong > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 7:25 PM > To: Matthew Kaufman > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] About needs basis in 8.3 transfers > > > > > Matthew Kaufman > > > > ps. I'd also note that "policy that expresses the general intent of the > community" may in fact *be* policy that lets post-runout transfers be > performed without a needs test, as "the community" consists of a lot more > than "Owen”. > > Indeed, it does. However, many people have also repeatedly stood up in > defense of needs basis, so singling me out as if I am the lone supporter of > preserving needs basis is as specious as many of your other arguments. > > Owen > > _______________________________________________ > PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN > Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. > _______________________________________________ > PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. >
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