On 14-07-17 05:13 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
Asked and answered earlier in the thread, but I will give it a shot...
If you have a collection of smaller blocks, it is much harder to get to 80%
utilization in each one while still preserving contiguous free space to
accommodate a larger-than-normal customer or a surge in customers. For example,
if you have 3 /22s and have utilized all but a /26, three discontiguous /27s,
and a two discontiguous /28s and a couple of /29s of the last one and all but a
/29 of each of the other two and you have a customer come in who needs a /24,
you're stuck. You need to find some other customer with a smaller need or some
valid utilization for a small block or two in order to reach your 80%
utilization on that last block.
OTOH, if you look at your overall situation, you're well past 80% overall.
This is not an uncommon scenario (in various forms) for small providers. The
rules as they exist were written with minimum allocations of /20 and larger in
mind at the time and smaller organizations mostly did not receive space
directly from ARIN.
Thanks Owen,
And I guess maybe that helps define where you and me differ on this,
this again seems to represent the scenario of a 'hoster' who ends up
'renting' out his IP(s) to other parties.
I have to make an assumption that this is a lot rarer than you think,
those entities get larger space.
And where I have concern is for the small service operators who need
that /24/23/22/21/20 for their own operations or business models or
cloud services, but don't want to be beholding to any provider and want
to 'own' their own IP Space.
These are the ones that I think may suffer here, and they don't usually
have a voice here.. and I am being a bit altruistic possibly, but I find
it hard to support ideas which make things easier for those who want the
'real estate' value vs the end users of IP space.
End users you can be sure will fill all the 'nooks and crannies' of
their total space. And while your test case may not seem bad, when you
look at those with /16/15/14/13../8 Those 'nooks and crannies' become
large swathes that should be used up before they get more as we run low.
The current policy helps to ensure that all the delegated space gets
used first.. before giving an incumbant more .. again IMHO
My two cents..
I want to see more full utilization before running out, (in the absense
of ways and methods of 'stewardship' and priority on the types and
validity of usage.) as a better chance that people in the future can
still get some from ARIN for longer.
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