On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Matthew Kaufman <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 9/15/2015 2:51 PM, John Curran wrote: > >> On Sep 15, 2015, at 5:44 PM, Matthew Kaufman <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Isn't the easier answer to just buy IP address space from others and not >>> bother registering the purchase with ARIN? Then you don't need to meet >>> *any* of the policies that impact transfers. >>> >> Indeterminate, since It’s unclear what you might be obtaining the rights >> to, >> if not actual rights to the entry in the Internet Number Registry System. >> > > Sure it is. I'd be obtaining the rights to whatever was specified in the > purchase contract and/or listed on the bill of sale. > > The "rights to the entry in the Internet Number Registry System" are > provably not necessary in order to make use of the space. > > Such >> rights to the address block actually transfer only after the request has >> been >> completed at the registry. >> > > Yes, we've heard this before. All ARIN does is maintain the records, and > all you are transferring is the entry in the database. Got it. Doesn't > impact routing tables or the exchange of money. > > That's why leasing is possible, buying outside of the registration is > possible, rights of first refusal are possible, etc. > This is all not only possible, but in practice. ARIN has known that this has been happening for many years now. See slide 7 http://bit.ly/1ifoSAV for at least the start of the conversation. There's a great pub tale around how this story developed. See me in Montreal. :) The best way to fix this is to truly focus on the registry and follow the lead of the other regions. YMMV, Best, -M<
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