On Sep 15, 2015, at 6:19 PM, Martin Hannigan <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: This is all not only possible, but in practice. ARIN has known that this has been happening for many years now. See slide 7 http://bit.ly/1ifoSAV for at least the start of the conversation. There's a great pub tale around how this story developed. See me in Montreal. :)
Correct - such use of address space works because overall the ISP community appears to want it to. i.e. there is no need for ARIN (or any other RIR) to take any action unless the community determines otherwise and specifies actual policy in this area. If folks want it to work otherwise, then they know how to develop policy accordingly. See my email to this list from 2012 on this topic... /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN === Begin forwarded message: From: John Curran <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: [arin-ppml] Leasing (was: Re: IPv4 Update) Date: August 22, 2012 9:18:33 PM EDT To: Enrique Garcia <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Cc: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Aug 22, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Enrique Garcia <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I received an e-mail this morning from a company claiming that IP Space can now be leased. Was just wondering if this was legal. Enrique - If by "legal", you mean "in compliance with the community number resource management policy in this region", then perhaps I can provide some insight. Internet service providers routinely provide IP address assignments as part of their Internet services bundle, and those assignments are not permanent in nature but only for the duration of the service agreement. Many would consider such assignments to be "leased IP address space". Organizations receiving IP address space (as the recipient of a transfer or via allocations of IP address space from the free pool) as an ISP must meet the LIR definition (per NRPM 2.4) and that means "primarily assigning address space to the users of the network services that it provides." End-users receiving transfers or assignments of IP address space from the free pool must meet the End-user definition (per NRPM 2.6) during their request which requires they be receiving space to be used "exclusively for use in its operational networks." Ergo, the "leasing" of recently received space could reasonably raise concern about whether the request to ARIN for that space was made with full sincerity, and organizations would be advised not to request to receive IP address from the free pool or as the recipient of a transfer if their intent is to "lease" the space rather then use it for their network service customers (if an ISP) or use it for their own network (if they applied as an end-user.) There has been no policy development specifically regarding leasing as an appropriate/inappropriate use of held IP address space, so ARIN does not have a position either way (aside from the case above of insuring that requests to receive additional address space are made in good faith based on existing definitions of usage.) Obviously, individual Internet service providers may have their own views on handling of "leased" address space, depending on any number of factors including registrant and block size. I hope this helps somewhat in understanding the situation, recognizing that it is not likely to be as complete an answer as you would have liked. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN _______________________________________________ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues.
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