Joe,

The asymmetric transfers you mention below are allowed from my understanding.

RIR<->RIR->NIR

I remember this being discussed at the last ARIN meeting. If staff could 
confirm my basic diagram that would be appreciated.

I believe at least for LACNIC and AFRNIC there should be a waiver if requested, 
not a removal of reciprocity from the entire section.

Kevin Blumberg










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Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN Response to AFRINIC on Policy compatibility

On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 05:29:29PM -0800, Owen DeLong wrote:
> The reciprocity requirement merely requires that the policies ALLOW 
> transfers in both directions.
> 
> I do not believe that allowing transfers to an RIR which will not 
> allow transfers out is reasonable or prudent and this belief has 
> nothing to do with maintenance or protection of a free pool. If we 
> will allow transfers between RIRs, then the policies by which they are 
> allowed should be fair, balanced, and symmetrical. This does not mean 
> that I expect the ratio of actual transfers to be balanced or 
> symmetrical, merely that the policies under which they are conducted 
> should be.

I'm with Owen on this. 

For folks who think asymmetric transfers in this context (co-operating RIRs) is 
OK, how do they feel regarding such transfers in other contexts?  I'm 
specifically thinking of asymmetric lock-in transfers to certain NIRs who 
require resources used within their legislative boundary be in their registry. 
I'm concerned that even a conditional door open here sets a precedent for 
enabling such reduced resource fluidity. 

IMNSHO, that way leads to enabling Balkanization.

Cheers!

Joe

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