As the author of the original proposal, I do want to see the main part of this proposal advance and be passed. Since it has now been pointed out that the language is currently frozen until the meeting, I note for the record that I have no problem with the draft as currently written, and would like to see it advance and pass. Discussion up to this point seems to be that the majority have no issue with the use of either word "should" or "shall". Thus, like the majority, "should" is acceptable for passage, and therefore I move for adoption as is.

The current draft is in 4 parts. Part one, to change the SWIP standard from /64 or more to a larger size, currently /47 or more or individually routed, is what I thought was wrong with the earlier standard, and what I was seeking change in policy in the original draft, and what I would like to pass.

Sections 2 and 3 are basically corrections, section 2 a mis-identified IPv4 section reference changed to the corresponding IPv6 section, and in section 3, removal of language that would make the new standard unclear since /64 or more would no longer be the standard.

Section 4 is the section regarding downstream requests for SWIP, and has the "should" and "shall" issue being discussed. It was identified during discussion, and was not part of the original draft.

I would suggest that we allow the draft to pass as is, and come back with a new draft changing that section to "shall" ONLY if it is identified that there are a lot of issues with obtaining SWIP registration by upstreams that do not think "should" is a strong enough word for them to act. Even then, consider that an upstream that refuses to act on "should" may also decide to not act on "shall" either.

Albert Erdmann
Network Administrator
Paradise On Line Inc.



On Fri, 29 Sep 2017, John Curran wrote:

On 28 Sep 2017, at 11:59 PM, Alexander, Daniel 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hello All,

I just wanted to mention some procedural points to consider in this discussion 
and thank you all for contributing to this debate. It does provide helpful 
guidance to the AC.

The current text is frozen, and cannot be changed until it is discussed at the meeting in San Jose. However, it can be 
discussed whether people would prefer "shall" or "should". If the community wanted the AC to 
advance this proposal by changing "should" to "shall", without going to another meeting, it does 
have to be discussed in San Jose with clear consensus, since that is not an editorial change.

Clear direction from the community helps the AC in their decision making 
process. If the discussion and feedback at the meeting is clearly split between 
changes to the text, it can make final decisions challenging.

Thank you all for your help in this process.

Dan -

   Your reading of the ARIN policy development process in this regard is 100% 
correct.

/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN


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