On 5 Oct 2018, at 10:58 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> 
> Forty-one percent is NOT a low number, which is likely why ARIN is trying 
> hard to get more entities to sign an LRSA/RSAA.  So much for thinking this 
> issue will go away sometime in my lifetime.

Albert - 

ARIN isn’t particularly “trying hard” to get entities to sign a registration 
services agreement – we inform legacy resources holders of its availability and 
the fact that under it that they'll receive our registration services with the 
maintenance fees per end-users, only with a cap on their total invoice due to 
legacy status <https://www.arin.net/fees/fee_schedule.html#legacy_fee>

We also inform them of the registry services that they receive if they are not 
under a registration services agreement 
<https://www.arin.net/resources/legacy/services.html>

> However, I suspect most of the /24's reflected in the chart are actually part 
> of those /8's that we have been discussing and that a small holder of just 2 
> /24's such as the one that started this thread are in fact VERY rare.  I also 
> suspect that a majority of that 41.3% are in fact members because of 
> receiving other resources.

Quite likely, and particularly as more organizations come and get IPv6 number 
resources.   

I’ll note that you use the term “members”, whereas you probably mean contracted 
customers – end-user organizations and legacy holders with agreements are 
“customers”, as opposed to legacy resource holders receiving basic services 
(who are effectively “customers w/o contract”) 

The term “ARIN Member” applies generally to ISPs (who via their Registration 
Services Plan often are paying significantly more for registry services) and 
those end-users/legacy holders who opt to become ARIN Members or become ARIN 
Members by opting for a Registration Services Plan. 

> Knowing the balance between members and non members is important in 
> understanding how important this issue is to the community.
> 
> Is there any statistics on:
> 
> Total number of entities who hold legacy resources?
> 
> Average number of /24's of legacy space that these entities hold?
> 
> Total number of these entities that hold a /22 or less of legacy space?
> 
> Total number of these entities that hold an /8 or more of legacy space?
> 
> Percent of /24's that do not pay dues at all?

We will research and prepare some statistics regarding block distribution among 
legacy resource holders.

Thanks!
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN



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