Just so I can get a prospective of how much money was lost for ARIN during
this discussion, can someone please tell me what the current minimum cost
under the current RSA for someone to hold 2 /24's? Five hundred a year
seems to be the stated price, but I am unable to calculate it based on
resources alone, which might be less.
I also note that at the time this holder received his resources, ARIN did
not exist, nor was there any charge to receive resources and no discussion
of any future charges for receiving numbers at the time when he received
his numbers. The charges by ARIN were done after the fact, and is it
really fair to impose a charge under these conditions? There seems to be
2 sides to this issue.
Albert Erdmann
Network Administrator
Paradise On Line Inc.
On Fri, 5 Oct 2018, John Santos wrote:
With all due respect, you don't know what you are talking about. You are
attributing motives to me and other legacy holders, that are completely false
and possibly libelous. And I think there are way more of us than you
imagine.
Received my class C from the InterNIC in 1993. Don't need any more, just
need RDNS and am happy to provide POC validation annually, and update my POC
records every decade or two when things change, but otherwise require almost
nothing from ARIN, so I don't see how I am a "freeloader".
On 10/5/2018 12:40 AM, Jo Rhett wrote:
The change is that ARIN is (or will soon be) no longer accepting DNSSEC DS
records for reverse DNS for those resources that are not covered by RSA or
LRSA. This is a change from current operational practice, and it
effectively disables the *community's* ability to validate reverse DNS for
these holders.
Refusing to authenticate resources used by holders who cannot be validated
is a feature, not a bug.
My fees (and everyone elses) pay ARIN to validate and certify the resource
holders. They absolutely should not publish resources they cannot validate
or certify. They absolutely should not under any circumstances extended
resources to perform validation and certification to people who’ve been
playing this game for closing on three decades.
ARIN has real issues to deal with, and the hundred or so resource holders
who want to keep stealing the time and effort of everyone involved in ARIN
for their little pity party should go away. It doesn’t below on the PPML
list, which should be concerned exclusively with the legitimate needs of
cooperative and legally contracted entities.
This was an active topic when I was a freakin child. As I near retirement
and death, it’s time for this to stop. It’s time for these resources to
be
1. Marked as unknown/unvalidated
2. Added to all abuse tracking DBs as unknown/unmanaged
And it’s time for all the unvalidated resource holders stop whining about
their rights. You’ve had decades to join the party. We owe you nothing.
--
Jo Rhett
Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and
internet projects.
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