I am opposed to opening up specified recipient transfers for IPv6 in virtually all cases.
I would be less opposed to inter-RIR transfers of IPv6 resources within the same organization if the policy provided adequate safeguards against registry policy shopping. It’s not clear to me, however, that there is a good path to creating such safeguards. Owen > On Mar 27, 2019, at 01:28 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ARIN-PPML > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi David, > > Sorry if somehow my input was “miss procedural” … the reason for that is > because I’ve proposed an equivalent policy in several RIRs (in terms the > final result: allowing IPv6 transfers), and this was one of the examples I’ve > used. > > And just to make it clear, I also support the policy proposal for the reasons > indicated in the actual proposal text. > > Here is a message about that with some other examples: > > https://mailman.apnic.net/mailing-lists/sig-policy/archive/2019/03/msg00003.html > > <https://mailman.apnic.net/mailing-lists/sig-policy/archive/2019/03/msg00003.html> > > > Regarsds, > Jordi > > > > > > El 27/3/19 2:40, "David Farmer" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > escribió: > > As one of the shepherds for this policy, beyond support for the policy as > written, I'm interested to hear if there is support for the use case Jordi > describes? > > The use case Jordi describes seems meaningfully different than the use case > described in the original problem statement. It seems plausible that there > are resolutions, other than the transfer of IPv6, to the RPKI issues > described in the current problem statement. However, for the use case that > Jordi describes, some kind of the inter-RIR M&A transfer, the transfer of > IPv6 resources seems like it could be reasonable, even if the RPKI issues are > resolved by means other than this policy. > > So, should Jordi's use case be included in addition to the current problem > statement? > > Are there other use cases for the inter-RIR transfer of IPv6 resources that > should be considered in the problem statement as well? > > Thanks. > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 4:46 PM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ARIN-PPML > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> In favor of the proposal. >> >> My point of view is on the other way around. >> >> This policy is needed, because if there is a company under an M&A or >> reorganization, it seems clear that then it is transferred IPv4, IPv6, ASN. >> But there may be cases where is not entirely failing into that category. >> >> For example, a "relocation". A company having VMs in data centers, in Europe >> (with resources from RIPE NCC) and moving to US (for whatever reasons). I >> don't expect they will renumber the VMs, they will just copy & synchronize >> the VMs and switch off the old VMs. >> >> It will not make sense to tell them "you can transfer" your IPv4 resources, >> but you need to renumber IPv6. >> >> There may be other cases which similar needs. >> >> Regards, >> Jordi >> >> >> >> El 26/3/19 22:35, "ARIN-PPML en nombre de John Santos" >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> en nombre de >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> escribió: >> >> >> On 3/26/2019 3:52 PM, ARIN wrote: >> > There is an operational need to allow RIR transfers of IPv6 resources >> > between RIRs with an equivalent transfer policy. ARIN’s RPKI Trust >> > Anchor (TA) is measurably less widely deployed than TAs from other >> > RIRs. As a consequence, RPKI ROAs published through ARIN offer less >> > value. Operators seeking to extract the most value from their >> > investment in IPv6 would benefit from the ability to transfer IPv6 >> > resources to RIRs with more widely deployed RPKI Trust Anchors. >> Wouldn't it make more sense to increase the deployment of RPKI in the >> ARIN region than to open this can of worms? >> >> -- >> John Santos >> Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. >> 781-861-0670 ext 539 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ARIN-PPML >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml >> <https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml> >> Please contact [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> if you experience >> any issues. >> >> >> >> >> ********************************************** >> IPv4 is over >> Are you ready for the new Internet ? >> http://www.theipv6company.com <http://www.theipv6company.com/> >> The IPv6 Company >> >> This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or >> confidential. 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