Spot on. On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 4:29 AM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ARIN-PPML < [email protected]> wrote:
> Hi David, > > > > Sorry if somehow my input was “miss procedural” … the reason for that is > because I’ve proposed an equivalent policy in several RIRs (in terms the > final result: allowing IPv6 transfers), and this was one of the examples > I’ve used. > > > > And just to make it clear, I also support the policy proposal for the > reasons indicated in the actual proposal text. > > > > Here is a message about that with some other examples: > > > > > https://mailman.apnic.net/mailing-lists/sig-policy/archive/2019/03/msg00003.html > > > > > > Regarsds, > > Jordi > > > > > > > > El 27/3/19 2:40, "David Farmer" <[email protected]> escribió: > > > > As one of the shepherds for this policy, beyond support for the policy as > written, I'm interested to hear if there is support for the use case Jordi > describes? > > > > The use case Jordi describes seems meaningfully different than the use > case described in the original problem statement. It seems plausible that > there are resolutions, other than the transfer of IPv6, to the RPKI issues > described in the current problem statement. However, for the use > case that Jordi describes, some kind of the inter-RIR M&A transfer, the > transfer of IPv6 resources seems like it could be reasonable, even if the > RPKI issues are resolved by means other than this policy. > > > > So, should Jordi's use case be included in addition to the current problem > statement? > > > > Are there other use cases for the inter-RIR transfer of IPv6 resources > that should be considered in the problem statement as well? > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 4:46 PM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ARIN-PPML < > [email protected]> wrote: > > In favor of the proposal. > > My point of view is on the other way around. > > This policy is needed, because if there is a company under an M&A or > reorganization, it seems clear that then it is transferred IPv4, IPv6, ASN. > But there may be cases where is not entirely failing into that category. > > For example, a "relocation". A company having VMs in data centers, in > Europe (with resources from RIPE NCC) and moving to US (for whatever > reasons). I don't expect they will renumber the VMs, they will just copy & > synchronize the VMs and switch off the old VMs. > > It will not make sense to tell them "you can transfer" your IPv4 > resources, but you need to renumber IPv6. > > There may be other cases which similar needs. > > Regards, > Jordi > > > > El 26/3/19 22:35, "ARIN-PPML en nombre de John Santos" < > [email protected] en nombre de [email protected]> escribió: > > > On 3/26/2019 3:52 PM, ARIN wrote: > > There is an operational need to allow RIR transfers of IPv6 > resources > > between RIRs with an equivalent transfer policy. ARIN’s RPKI Trust > > Anchor (TA) is measurably less widely deployed than TAs from other > > RIRs. As a consequence, RPKI ROAs published through ARIN offer less > > value. Operators seeking to extract the most value from their > > investment in IPv6 would benefit from the ability to transfer IPv6 > > resources to RIRs with more widely deployed RPKI Trust Anchors. > Wouldn't it make more sense to increase the deployment of RPKI in the > ARIN region than to open this can of worms? > > -- > John Santos > Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. > 781-861-0670 ext 539 > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. > > > > > ********************************************** > IPv4 is over > Are you ready for the new Internet ? > http://www.theipv6company.com > The IPv6 Company > > This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or > confidential. 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