On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 10:30 AM Job Snijders <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 09, 2019 at 01:43:36PM +0000, John Curran wrote:
> > On 9 Apr 2019, at 9:33 AM, Job Snijders <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> wrote:
> > > I'd like to draw the community's attention to the following joint
> > > announcement from two of Africa's largest IP transit providers.
> > > ...
> > > It should be incontestable now that ARIN resource holders are at a
> > > disadvantage when it comes to RPKI services.
> >
> > Job -
> >
> > Indeed.  It’s similarly incontestable that customers of those service
> > providers are at a disadvantage to customers of other service provider
> > in Africa that do provide complete routing validation including for
> > ARIN-region resource holders.   One of the benefits of our loosely
> > coordinated Internet is that service providers have autonomy in how
> > they run their network, and customers have autonomy in selection of
> > their service providers.
>
> Yes, exactly. In this instance ARIN is the exclusive provider of RPKI
> services for our North American IPv6 resources. The ARIN-2019-4 proposal
> addresses the exclusivity issue and will provide us autonomy in selection
> of our service provider.
>

Isn't this exclusivity what ICP-2 and the RPKI RFCs intend? It seems to me
the RPKI RFCs intended there to be a global trust anchor, the change away
from a global trust anchor to regionalization of the trust anchors is at
least partially responsible for the issues at hand.

Further, transferring IPv6 or other resources, or as you put it selecting
your RIR, seems to only be an option for some operators, those operators
that operate in multiple regions.  Many operators only operate in the ARIN
region, for these operators, I don't see how it is possible to transfer
their resources to another RIR, IPv4, ASNs, or IPv6. So, this doesn't seem
to be a complete solution. You seem to be leaving a lot of people behind
with this solution.

Thanks.

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