> On Apr 10, 2019, at 11:51 AM, Bill Murdoch <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Working with remote and rural community's... > > "customers have autonomy in selection of their service providers" . > > For a major urban center autonomy in selection is an option. For the > realities of communities just a couple hundred kilometres away from urban > centres, choices (if any) become fewer. For remote communities, typically > only the one option. >
Not necessarily… San Jose, CA is a major urban center. Autonomy in selection isn’t really an option for most of San Jose. Owen > > Sent from my BlackBerry — the most secure mobile device > From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Sent: April 10, 2019 12:53 > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2019-4: Allow Inter-regional IPv6 > Resource Transfers > > (off topic) > > customers have autonomy in selection of their service providers > > ha ha haah=ahaaahahahahah oh wow. *MAYBE* in the commercial space. I > surveyed all of my friends and family at one point and got over 800+ replies > all across the US, and only 4-- FOUR == a small fraction of a percent!! -- > had a choice of providers for at least 10+Mb/sec internet service. > > Maybe Canada has it better, but I haven't heard that the Caribbean has > significant choice either. Mexico has the same non-overlap in the market as > the US. > > On topic for ARIN but not for African ISPs: I don't think that ARIN policy > should revolve around Republican beliefs that the market always provides > competition. History shows that the market will choose not to compete > whenever possible, and will even strike agreements not to compete. Thus ARIN > has a responsibility IMHO to ensure that customers receive baseline services > -- to whatever extent it is possible within ARIN's charter. > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 6:44 AM John Curran <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > On 9 Apr 2019, at 9:33 AM, Job Snijders <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: >> >> I'd like to draw the community's attention to the following joint >> announcement from two of Africa's largest IP transit providers. >> ... >> It should be incontestable now that ARIN resource holders are at a >> disadvantage when it comes to RPKI services. > > Job - > > Indeed. It’s similarly incontestable that customers of those service > providers are at a disadvantage to customers of other service provider in > Africa that do provide complete routing validation including for ARIN-region > resource holders. One of the benefits of our loosely coordinated Internet > is that service providers have autonomy in how they run their network, and > customers have autonomy in selection of their service providers. > > /John > > John Curran > President and CEO > American Registry for Internet Numbers > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > <https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml> > Please contact [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> if you experience any > issues. > > > -- > Jo Rhett > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > <https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml> > Please contact [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> if you experience any > issues.
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