The solutions are so simple and obvious that non-adoption and permanent refusal to discuss the problem compromises the integrity, honor, and character of the actors involved. All actors in this game have AUPs, ToSs and contractual ASPs on their site. Just put it into practice. And punish those who do not act like that.
Keep pretending that the problem is out of everyone's scope and the free Internet you so much desire will be shaped by politicians. And I'll be around to point the finger at those who by greed and lack of ethics, dared to do nothing. Marilson Em dom, 28 de abr de 2019 às 13:14, Michel Py < [email protected]> escreveu: > >> Michel Py wrote: > >> That being said, this thing about policy violation is ridiculous. The > way I see it, it's a > >> contract violation. Policy has nothing to do with it. Now where it gets > hairy is in a > >> cross-RIR situation, where the alleged hijacked prefix is in contract > with another RIR. > >> I see it as a contract violation, therefore I oppose making it a policy > violation. > > > Hank Nussbacher wrote : > > So if you consider it a contract violation, what remedy do you recommend? > > None coming from ARIN. This thing is futile, IMHO. What could ARIN do ? > A fine ? invalidating the alleged hijacker ARIN membership and reclaiming > legit prefixes that the member may have ? Taking their ASN back ? Sue them ? > Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see any of this happening. Without radical > changes to ARIN's mission and scope, this is moot. > > > Ronald F. Guilmette wrote : > > Here in our area, we have an entity that builds and maintains most of > the roads. > > Unfortunatly, the Internet is global. An ARIN prefix could be hijacked in > any part of the world, or vice-versa. > There is no "our area". > > > And as I have noted above, the same "governance" entity that paints the > lines > > on the road should also be the one enforcing those lines and those rules. > > Anything else is just unworkable, as history has already amply proven. > > If that is what you want, you need to give ARIN enforcement powers and the > resources to do so that are not currently there. > > Michel. > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. >
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